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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2018, 12:16:38 AM »
Game needs lines of attack. For example: 2 bases make a set. A team needs to take the first set in order to be able to take the next set.. infinity till map is won.
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2018, 01:38:39 AM »
So what happened in the last 24 hours. Was I PNGed and you changed your mind?

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2018, 12:20:41 PM »
Nrshida,

In the arena setup\environment\general is a setting with a value 0-1000 for when ENY will turn on based on number of players in the arena. It is set at 70.

kappa,

You achieve the same thing by how you setup the GV spawns on a terrain. If you fill a terrain with spawns like buzzsaw or over populate a terrain with vBases like smpizza, GV players will balakanize from air combat initiatives unless there are well known greifing opportunities for tanks like at A2 on buzzsaw. Or you have an isolated air fight that a hoard of GV's will not face much resistance defending that field against a single GV spawn.

If you balance GV spawns with airfields so they describe an initiative pathway, GVers will follow the air combat to grief the field under attack or try and capture it. It will always be like herding cats unless you can convince Hitech to change the MA to a one sector map with a timer and everyone is forced at each other in a capture the flag timed match race. I've spent the last two years and three MA terrains into production learning about how to herd cats in the MA. Back when we had hundreds in the MA, capture paths were feasible because of so many people wanting something to do and the dynamics of how groups tend to sweep everyone along good or bad. With today's low numbers, trying to force them to fight won't get many takers. It's more like you put out a bowl of milk and some days all the cats fight to get at it and others, they couldn't care less.

You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor and all you have to do is open a bag of treats and all the cats will come running. Three terrains back I thought that to with my first one, then learned better by my most recent one from observing how players utilized my first two terrains. Every time my three terrains come up in rotation, it amazes me what draws the interest of the players versus the last time those terrains cycled around. Players follow the paths of least resistance in most cases which end up being the GV spawns which allow the GVers to support air initiatives. Most of them want to play the game surrounded by their own green guys which is the key with low numbers to keep initiatives going. It becomes more like whackAmole played with cats.

No matter what Hitech tried to do about it back in the 400 a night days, that is how the majority of his customers wanted to play in the MA. The numbers kept initiatives going long past the shelf life for the capture. Today, a location will be crawling with green guys, you will re-arm to go back, and they are gone over that 10-15min period. That won't sustain lines of attack when the cats are that finicky about the milk. 
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2018, 12:35:09 PM »
Nrshida,

In the arena setup\environment\general is a setting with a value 0-1000 for when ENY will turn on based on number of players in the arena. It is set at 70.

My observation had bugger all to do with ENY. Somebody else made that assumption. Along with other assumptions.


You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor

Fixed? How ironic.

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2018, 01:51:07 PM »
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2018, 04:12:59 PM »

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    You gents act like the human dynamics in the MA is a fixed factor


Fixed? How ironic.

Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2018, 04:46:15 PM »
It's up to each individual to make his/her own fun and find it when logging in to the game

The fun is there, always has been.... Just need to learn to find it

This is what gets to me with all the different threads/posts.....

People these days want everything right now, without even trying to put any effort into it

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 06:39:57 PM »
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2018, 08:49:05 PM »
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

Guy.. this is a video game. 

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2018, 09:28:51 PM »
Guy.. this is a video game.


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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2018, 09:45:35 PM »
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2018, 10:41:17 PM »
Do people fully read every single post and reply in each thread?

To understand the situation and different conversations transpiring within a thread?

Before chiming in with off the mark/off the message replies that really have no clue or context as to the actual different conversations/side conversations in such threads/posts....

I don't think most are really interested or paying attention to what is being posted

What say you?

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2018, 11:16:53 PM »
Simple, you gents throw solutions out like "if you build my solution they will magically love it becasue I'm a genius at this." While expecting someone else to test it, build it, and sit around observing the outcomes of how it isn't utilized. And you nrshida don't even play the game any more in the MA nor does kappa. But, both of you are experts on the social dynamics of player utilization of functions in the MA during drive by sessions here in the forums. Fixed dynamics means if someone will just implement your ideas, the MA population will fall all over themselves to play on them and the day will be saved. No two days in the MA of utilizing the functions is the same on the same terrain each time it comes up in rotation. And on some rotations the cats reject all the milk on the same terrains until it's next time up in rotation and then they go nuts playing on it. I doubt you have ever watched terrains for two years none stop to understand how they are utilized by the MA community. Yes you have played the game and so has kappa, but, that is like saying you slept in a motel 6 and can perform surgery becasue of a good nights rest when you are a plumber.

It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch

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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2018, 01:02:36 AM »
It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch

That's cause there is no off switch. You have to clap your hands 3 times :old:
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Re: Do you understand that ENY is disabled with low numbers?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2018, 01:04:57 AM »
It was Holiday Inn Express that were handing out medical degrees ......Motel 6 just leaves the light on for ya..............they still can't find the on/off switch
MMM, lets see now. Yup, it was you...sure sounds like something you would do...or Cybro :uhoh Wait a minute...49er and Cybro both prone to this... DANG IT DUNDEE....give it back!  :rofl
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