Ok I have a question here

[Tracerfi]

Should a TU2 be able or out turn a Mosquito or a P47D-11 with half fuel and flaps extended?

[zack1234]

100% yes

[icepac]

Weight vs horsepower vs wing area say "absolutely, positively" but I would go after one with a 110.    The TU2 doesn't roll fast but it's not one you want to get into a circle in or even in the vert if below 8000 feet where it's 3700hp can come into play.

I can't wait for the complaints about the PE2 if it shows up some day.

[Ciaphas]

The TU-2 is a fun aircraft to pilot. After I sink a CV I can ditch my drones and get stuck in with the fighters and do fairly well.

I'll usually do this if there is a large ENM cap over a field near to the ENM CV's position and there is minimal friendly participation in the breakout portion of the fight.


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[hgtonyvi]

It seem like the TU2 never misses a CV drop.

[Ciaphas]

It seem like the TU2 never misses a CV drop.

Everything goes boom when you have it lined up, calibrate properly and time your release/releases properly. It doens't matter what bomber you are flying, providing it carries enough ords.

[ccvi]

Not just enough, but the have to land close enough compared to their size. The tu2 1t bombs are pretty big and the formations is more tight than that of the bigger bombers. Compare to a lanc dropping 500 lbs bombs. It's pretty likely that either the bombs of the left or right drone won't do much damage, and the high salvo required causes the same problem for the first or last bombs dropped.

[1stpar3]

It seem like the TU2 never misses a CV drop.

I have noticed this as well! SURE...calibration is your friend but I have watched as the same bomber pilot misses EVERY THING on a base, but on CV...down she goes! Guess it could be that he just excels in judging "Kentucky Windage" on moving targets? It does seem to be an ODD anomaly though Also, I guess size matters. They carry some big bombs.

[bozon]

Should a TU2 be able or out turn a Mosquito or a P47D-11 with half fuel and flaps extended?

At a high speed, max unsustained turns, no, by a small margin - assuming all start at the same speed.
Sustained low speed turns the TU2 probably can fly slower than the D11. Not sure about the mossie, they are probably close. This may depend on whether the mossie has WEP or not and fuel states.

Bombers in AH are silly good fighters. You would be amazed what a B26 can do. I alway get a kick out of imagining this happening in real life - the waist gunners hanging for their dear life and loose equipment flying inside the fuselage while I throw the bomber around between a redout and a blackout

[Volron]

At a high speed, max unsustained turns, no, by a small margin - assuming all start at the same speed.
Sustained low speed turns the TU2 probably can fly slower than the D11. Not sure about the mossie, they are probably close. This may depend on whether the mossie has WEP or not and fuel states.

Bombers in AH are silly good fighters. You would be amazed what a B26 can do. I alway get a kick out of imagining this happening in real life - the waist gunners hanging for their dear life and loose equipment flying inside the fuselage while I throw the bomber around between a redout and a blackout

The 88 did better than the 26 though (pre-update 88. No clue how she handles now), despite the single 7.9(?)mm.  I shot down a 47N (twice in one run, same pilot), F4U and Spit 8 knife fighting with one.  You'd be surprised how SLOW you can get her, and how well she'll move around at that speed.  The last fight I got into with one, I got into a good knife fight with different F4U before he took off one of my horizontal stabilizers.  When the fight inevitably ended up LOW, well, it's what got me, not him.    Sadly, I've forgotten his name but he was no slouch in an F4U.  It was a good long while ago.

[icepac]

I hope for more JU88 fighter variants so we can see threads about it.

Do the JU88, Mossie, B26, and TU2 outperform fighters?    No

Can they perform in certain situations that allow them to get guns on, absolutely.

If the fighter matched up against them plays to the strengths of the bombers, he will lose.

This is why you check out every plane in the planeset.     The training arena is great for this because you can quickly check how they perform at various altitudes.

[atlau]

The tu2 is probably the best overall bomber in the game because of its versatility. Can kill 4 hangars or wf a town and then convert to fighter mode to deack. Good for bomb****ing gvs too. Perk it!

[FLS]

Should a TU2 be able or out turn a Mosquito or a P47D-11 with half fuel and flaps extended?

If you're slow enough for flaps almost anyone with enough speed can out-turn you.

If you're both slow the aircraft that can pull more G will turn better.

This makes it easy to test aircraft.

See which aircraft can pull more G at 200 mph for example, and you'll know which one turns better.

[guncrasher]

If you're slow enough for flaps almost anyone with enough speed can out-turn you.

If you're both slow the aircraft that can pull more G will turn better.

This makes it easy to test aircraft.

See which aircraft can pull more G at 200 mph for example, and you'll know which one turns better.

it's not the aircraft sometimes, it's the pilot behind it.  I have outturned many aircraft that should have had no problem outturning me due to the other pilot being too confident and not taking advantage of their own plane.

semp

[FLS]

it's not the aircraft sometimes, it's the pilot behind it.  I have outturned many aircraft that should have had no problem outturning me due to the other pilot being too confident and not taking advantage of their own plane.

semp

When you're talking specifically about aircraft performance it's the aircraft, not the pilot.