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Re: Alt cap - why for god sakes ?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2018, 01:30:13 PM »
High alt manouvering - yes. Rest absolutelly not !!!! Idea of forcing people to play where other planes are competitive is ridiculous. Fly your yak at 10k in close support of IL2, you will get jumped and that's the reality of eastern front. End of story. If you fly it at 25k, you're in a pig. 109s and 190s will come down to meet you if killing IL2s is their target.
 
Same for 8th airforce. Your 109 at 30k is quite sufficient to attack buffs, get lower after that, fight where you can. Who said you should only have "fair setup" in scenario ? If so, i'd like +20mph on my spitfire V when faced with 190s !!! :) It's only fair !!!

KCDitto, i think you might have missed the sarcasm in my post ;)


In a recent FSO we flew A6M2's and A6M3's vs. P40s and Spit V's. It wasn't fun watching Spit 5's come in 7K above us simply because they could and our A6Ms could not make it that high. On top of that, we were escorting bombers and could not properly escort because the planes dove down and went back up with us having no chance to catch them in either instance.

It is impossible to make things 100% balanced, which is why there is give and take. The 190 is better at some things than others, and the same with the Spit. We do what we can to make it as fun as possible for the most amount of people possible. In this scenario we have C.202s which are laughable and are the worst plane in the setup, but I don't see anyone complaining about flying them. It is rare to see the Axis have an advantage in planeset outside of the Eastern Front, and here that advantage is with 1 plane.
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Re: Alt cap - why for god sakes ?
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2018, 01:30:42 PM »
In Aces High, the player base for scenarios is significantly different today than 10 years ago.

How many pilots fly in Squad Select Series in Warbirds today?  Would we be able to get them to come join us in scenarios?

i doubt it. I tried doing that back in early 2000. That's how FSOs came to be. Idea was to replicate S3s in AH.
I see that they have about 50 people flying every week. 3 lifes per event ( used to be 1 per event back in my days ). so i guess it's dwindling as well. Judging by forum they are working tightly with developers, so i doubt that they would be interested in switching.

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Re: Alt cap - why for god sakes ?
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2018, 02:22:04 PM »
i doubt it. I tried doing that back in early 2000. That's how FSOs came to be. Idea was to replicate S3s in AH.
I see that they have about 50 people flying every week. 3 lifes per event ( used to be 1 per event back in my days ). so i guess it's dwindling as well. Judging by forum they are working tightly with developers, so i doubt that they would be interested in switching.

OK.  They are always welcome here -- we'd love to have them join us. <S>!  :aok

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Re: Alt cap - why for god sakes ?
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2018, 06:58:56 PM »
Alt caps have always been a bad idea. Is it commonplace in scenarios nowadays?
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Re: Alt cap - why for god sakes ?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2018, 11:25:49 PM »
One thing you have to keep in mind is that the goal of scenarios is not to mimic history, it's to have good fights with a more strategic side and in a more historical setting than the MA allows. If we were trying to mimic history we'd have 8+ hour bomber sorties and only one life for the entire event. Alt caps are there for the same reason. The ultimate goal is to design events that result in the most enjoyment for players. Events where one side are sheep to the slaughter are no fun for the sheep, and honestly not all that much fun for the wolves either.