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Offline Lazerr

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Satellite Internet
« on: January 11, 2019, 11:04:27 AM »
I am at the very end of Centurylink DSL service range, it actually feels more like dialup.  Ive had this service for a year after buying a home out in the sticks.  Long story short, its slow.  This 109 meg patch for the game is currently taking me 30+ minutes.

Ive got some quotes on a few satelitte providers, and the prices are pretty decent for the speed being offered.  One was HughesNet Gen5, the other was Exceed or whatever the hell they call it now.  Is it worth it the difference of 30bucks from what I pay now? Is it flat out garbage to game on? I currently cant stream or anything, and satelitte would allow this, but I also dont want to lose my ability to play AH smoothly, which my current provider does fine with.

Just looking for some feedback!

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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 11:34:38 AM »
For what has been told here through the years, satellite connections aren't good for a smooth AH experience. Supposedly the situation hasn't changed since the distance to the satellites and the speed of radio waves haven't changed.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 11:42:25 AM »
I’d stick with what you have. I’ve had sat. It’s not the best for gaming.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 11:54:39 AM »
Just my 2 cents. I have the best internet anyone could wish for and my download of the new game took half a day. Sometimes the HTC servers are not your friend. So it could be related to that.

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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 11:54:53 AM »
With Sats the weather will come into play. When you are stuck inside it will also mean you may have no net.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 12:09:35 PM »
Just my 2 cents. I have the best internet anyone could wish for and my download of the new game took half a day. Sometimes the HTC servers are not your friend. So it could be related to that.

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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 02:21:01 PM »
no to satellite  your round trip time goes into space and back creating another blakjack.   blackhole of rounds and planes.   
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 04:17:02 PM »
Once someone gets their low earth orbit internet going, it might be ok ping-wise.  But geo-stationary sats are 1/10th of the way to the moon, ping is crazy high.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 05:03:39 PM »
The speed of the connection is irrelevant, it is the latency of the connection that makes satellite difficult for doing anything real time.

Satellite connections can have latencies up to 3 seconds, easily.

Just my 2 cents. I have the best internet anyone could wish for and my download of the new game took half a day. Sometimes the HTC servers are not your friend. So it could be related to that.

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The servers have little to do with this.  The maximum download speed, per download, is capped at 100MB/s.  The server has little trouble delivering that speed to hundreds of connections at a a time.

It can be Internet related, especially for any overseas connections.  It can also be that your particular computer just has a problem reaching maximum download speed when downloading the "stdshapes.res" file.  We know some computers have trouble with that, but have no idea why.  It bothers us enough to cause us to look to other methods of getting that file to the system.  I have  yet to find a computer which exhibits the issue, which makes it nearly impossible to debug.

Many have reported simply canceling the download and restarting the installation corrected the problem for them.  The installation software is not something we created.  It is the Nullsoft package, which is used by a number of applications.  We just provide the script.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 08:23:59 PM »
Just my 2 cents. I have the best internet anyone could wish for and my download of the new game took half a day. Sometimes the HTC servers are not your friend. So it could be related to that.

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Then you don't have the best internet anyone could wish for. I have Gbps fibre (1Gbps down, unlimited traffic, we use about 2Tb of data a month), what do you have?

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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 08:32:58 PM »
some thing to look at are:

location in your neighborhood, are you at the end?

Do you have a lot of squirrels, raccoons etc

Have you checked the condition of your wires in your attic/crawl space?

how does the connection to your utility pole look?

there are physical aspects that can crush your internet.


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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 09:13:25 PM »
Are the squirrels and raccoons armed?
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 09:49:59 AM »
I am at the very end of Centurylink DSL service range, it actually feels more like dialup.  Ive had this service for a year after buying a home out in the sticks.  Long story short, its slow.  This 109 meg patch for the game is currently taking me 30+ minutes.

Ive got some quotes on a few satelitte providers, and the prices are pretty decent for the speed being offered.  One was HughesNet Gen5, the other was Exceed or whatever the hell they call it now.  Is it worth it the difference of 30bucks from what I pay now? Is it flat out garbage to game on? I currently cant stream or anything, and satelitte would allow this, but I also dont want to lose my ability to play AH smoothly, which my current provider does fine with.

Just looking for some feedback!

ok my friend-I'm know a little bit about satellite internet-because I had Excede for 3 years-service is interrupted when it rains, it sometimes does a auto reset at 2 or 3 am, I had 25mb's per second download-my ping rate in the game was in the 600's stayed around 650-had latency in gv's{ Kilroy used to get so mad hehe}I had no problems flying at least nobody ever said anything. maybe once a month or 2 it would just cut off, and I would have to call in. installation is free, they supply the steel post approx. 6ft. (hvy duty) and the cement, u supply the 1/2 gallon of water maybe less, they have you under a 2 year contract, if you break the contract it's approx. $350.00 dollars. download speeds where pretty good, very little if any buffering. just had that latency with gv's. I don't know anything about Hughesnet, it's not available where I live. oh and Excede does not do Satellite tv. but you could get a digital antenna, Amazon has all kinds of kits. hope this helps <S>
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2019, 10:58:12 AM »
I used satellite internet for over a decade as a full time RVer. When we started out in 04 it was the only way to guaranty you had internet service as you traveled the country. I also became a hughesnet installer for other RVers and trained them how to find the bird when they parked and set up the dish each day. Long story short, the delay from transmission from the PC through the modem then uplink to the bird, which is NOT locked to your signal constantly, then down to the ground receive station which then routes it through their ground cable connection etc caused a latency of 2 seconds. I tried it on a couple of online games. I found that most often I was dead as soon as I "spawned", because to the others I sat there immobile for at least 2 seconds.

If you are going to "real time" game you must have a wire connection or use WIFI to a dedicated wired connection locally. Satellite will simply not cut it. Physics and the design of the system is not going to allow it.

I dropped satellite when the phone system, especially 4G, became very available where we traveled. using the phone as a modem (called tethering by the cell folks) by plugging in the USB charge cable to the PC USB connection, especially a 3.0 style USB connection made online gaming a viable option. I still had lags of 125 ms but that was far more playable than 2+ seconds. I was also limited by the data limits of the cell company. I bit the bullet and got 25 gigs a month  through Verizon. It was still cheaper than Hughesnet with only a 270 Meg daily download limit except for the times of 2 AM to 5 AM Eastern time. Hughesnet has changed their system somewhat and not is all spot beamed so not viable for RVers.

If you have 4G cell phone signal but it's weak, you might want to invest in a cell signal booster that also supports data transmission to make it a viable option for you.
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Re: Satellite Internet
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2019, 03:00:05 PM »
When i first moved in, I played using my cell phone as a hot spot.  It was okay, download speeds on any large file were my only complaint.  I think ill stick with my Centurylink after reading you guys' replies.  Maybe ill get lucky and spectrum will end up out here some day.  Or maybe they will upgrade the speed of my DSL.  I cant complain about the playability of aces high on it, i rarely see warping.