2v1 country ganging needs intervention from htc

[OldNitro]

Interesting experiment, would be to add another arena..

Realistic maps, with 2 sides, and multiple contact fronts..

Let the players choose!

[Oldman731]

Interesting experiment, would be to add another arena..

Realistic maps, with 2 sides, and multiple contact fronts..

Let the players choose!

Welcome to the AvA!

- oldman

[OldNitro]

Welcome to the AvA!

- oldman

Two sides, FULL plane/vehicle set, and realistic fictional, but non historic maps..

[The Fugitive]

switching to a 2 sided war will only work if there is an automatic side balancing setup. Human nature dictates that one side will gang up on the other with out it.

sticking with 3 sides is ok so long as something is added to force teams to break away from rolling one front. Not only would this help cut back on the ganging one team to 40 percent of their bases it would also push the activity from front to front adding fun for more players.  We are after here to have fun playing a game.

[Shuffler]

Three sides helps combat the issues with 2 sides.

[DubiousKB]

ipso-facto, therefore 4 sides corrects the issues of 3 sides? 

[hitech]

ipso-facto, therefore 4 sides corrects the issues of 3 sides? 

ipso-fact I have created a game with 4 sides,
             I have created a game with 2 sides,
              I have created a game with 3 sides.
              I played a game with 3 sides.

Ah has 3 sides, which one do you think I believe works best.

HiTech

[Vraciu]

I'm sure this has been <cough> "discussed", but I don't see why two sides would change the horde mentality.  It seems that some players play to win the war and tend to migrate to the side that is most focused on that goal and often has the numbers to accomplish it.  Why wouldn't that also be true with two sides?

Let them horde in Sopwith Camels then. 

Two sides needs to be implemented.  It’s defacto 2 v 1 any way, just that one side has two chess pieces. 

[Vraciu]

ipso-fact I have created a game with 4 sides,
             I have created a game with 2 sides,
              I have created a game with 3 sides.
              I played a game with 3 sides.

Ah has 3 sides, which one do you think I believe works best.

HiTech

Works for you, sir.   Not so much for us. 

Two sides with aggressive ENY would balance. 

It would also allow any player to meet the point of attack at any time, unlike now, where a third of the population is fighting nobody.

[Vraciu]

Three sides helps combat the issues with 2 sides.

ENY helps combat issues with two sides. 

Three sides creates more trouble than it is worth at current player levels.

[Vraciu]

switching to a 2 sided war will only work if there is an automatic side balancing setup. Human nature dictates that one side will gang up on the other with out it.

sticking with 3 sides is ok so long as something is added to force teams to break away from rolling one front. Not only would this help cut back on the ganging one team to 40 percent of their bases it would also push the activity from front to front adding fun for more players.  We are after here to have fun playing a game.

Sky is falling fake news here. 


Dump side switch timers and people will shift for balance.  We did it ALL THE TIME in Warbirds.   It was never a problem. 

Use ENY to create balance.   Problem solved. 

[Vraciu]

Welcome to the AvA!

- oldman

Nope. 

AvA is in no way comparable to the MA.   No way at all.

You must allow open (Axis and Allied) plane sets for both sides if any two-country arena is to be viable.   It boggles my mind that people can’t seem to grasp this. 

[Vraciu]

Two sides, FULL plane/vehicle set, and realistic fictional, but non historic maps..

Bingo.  And use ENY to balance numbers if you must.

[Oldman731]

Bingo.  And use ENY to balance numbers if you must.

Hard to believe you have become an ENY advocate.

- oldman

[Lazerr]

Maybe a different approach to the aVA arena would work?? Change the name to Main arena Historical and Main arena Melee would still be available.  Historical is small maps, two sides, same perks and scoring as Melee, maps rotate as won.  Base take order is implimented into historical, focusing a smaller population into a coordinated fight.

I also think a two sided melee with ENY would work best, but ive seen the same answer from HTC enough to keep pissing into that wind.