Another 737 down

[Arlo]

Everything you've ever criticized about my posts. Which have mostly been your misunderstandings. Proving your point but proving it about you.

Enough digression.  You may disagree. I'm done.

Ah, this is a personal aggravation with you, then, with you not liking being asked questions about your conclusions. Thanks for your 'permission.' Poor misunderstood FLS. Relax, the easily bruised feelings aren't reciprocated. 

[Vraciu]

Reality is reality. Answers tend to involve more thought and time. Coming to instant conclusions on the topic at hand (attempted correlation set aside, I suppose, as out of place as it was) is not a sign of following the topic from multiple valid perspectives (especially if your not a pilot or accident investigator, yourself). Yes, I'm comfortable with reality and my place in it. 

The crew re-engaged a runaway stab trim.   That’s game over.  Pilot error. 

[Vraciu]

I can understand not blaming the pilots when they are certified as trained and competent. But I'll blame the pilots before the airplane.

In this case you would be correct.

[Arlo]

The crew re-engaged a runaway stab trim.   That’s game over.  Pilot error.

Gonna keep monitoring the thread, if you don't mind, sir. 

[Vraciu]

Gonna keep monitoring the thread, if you don't mind, sir. 

If you enjoy self-abuse be my guest. 

[Arlo]

If you enjoy self-abuse be my guest.

Didn't seem self-abusive. 

[MiloMorai]

More bad news for Boieng.

https://m.omaha.com/money/text-messages-show-boeing-employees-knew-of-problems-with-max/article_413cbf03-b1dd-5c46-9d27-5546033770c6.html

https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1WX2RD-OCATP

[ACE]

More bad news for Boieng.

https://m.omaha.com/money/text-messages-show-boeing-employees-knew-of-problems-with-max/article_413cbf03-b1dd-5c46-9d27-5546033770c6.html

https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN1WX2RD-OCATP

Big corporations putting profits over people’s safety. Surely not in America. 

[Vraciu]

Big corporations (airlines) putting profits over people’s safety using unqualified crews and spec'ing their fleets as minimally equipped as possible. Surely not in the Third World.

FIFY.

[FLS]

Big corporations putting profits over people’s safety. Surely not in America.

That's not what the story said. It said an employee accidentally mislead the FCC about something he told them about updates to the MCAS. Following normal runaway trim procedure would still have saved both aircraft. 

There has never been any indication that Boeing doesn't prioritize safety, however there is a worldwide shortage of experienced pilots.

[Vraciu]

That's not what the story said. It said an employee accidentally mislead the FCC about something he told them about updates to the MCAS. Following normal runaway trim procedure would still have saved both aircraft. 

There has never been any indication that Boeing doesn't prioritize safety, however there is a worldwide shortage of experienced pilots.

You’re wasting your breath. 

[FLS]

You’re wasting your breath.

We disagree about so many things. 

[Busher]

Wow, 38 pages and this turkey is resurrected? Whatever the truth might be concerning the facts contributing to these accidents was, that ship has long sailed. It typically takes the NTSB a significant amount of time to investigate an accident..... the cause of these crashes were decided in a matter of days.
All that matters now is the long term damage to the Boeing Company. I for one, don't believe it will return to it's world renowned status as a builder of airliners.

[Vraciu]

Wow, 38 pages and this turkey is resurrected? Whatever the truth might be concerning the facts contributing to these accidents was, that ship has long sailed. It typically takes the NTSB a significant amount of time to investigate an accident..... the cause of these crashes were decided in a matter of days.
All that matters now is the long term damage to the Boeing Company. I for one, don't believe it will return to it's world renowned status as a builder of airliners.

Their best hope in my opinion is to lean heavily on their new partnership with EMBRAER.    Systems-wise there is nobody better anywhere.   How that came to be is a mystery but it is what it is.

[Vraciu]

We disagree about so many things.