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Re: World War IIís Worst Airplane
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2019, 03:53:24 PM »
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Re: World War IIís Worst Airplane
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2019, 03:14:50 AM »
I think if we are talking about worst aircraft of WW2 we need to make the distinction between design failures and specification failures. The Bf 110 was a failure as a day fighter against modern opposition but this was not the fault of the designers. The 110 met the requirements it was given by the Luftwaffe, who prior to the Battle of Britain still thought it was an excellent day fighter. The 210 on the other hand was a design failure because it was horribly unstable and the wing just did not work.

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Re: World War IIís Worst Airplane
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2019, 10:57:43 PM »
Yeah, the 177 was a disaster and I'll also add that any four-engined bomber from Germany proved to be useless operationally.

Another disappointing aircraft was the Bf-110.  On paper was to be superior to any early WWII aircraft but in operation and in air to air combat against the Hurricane and Spitfire was a dismal failure. Perhaps if they removed the entire rear gunner and support systems, and shortened the cockpit glass it would have performed better?

Every BofB scenario in AH people flock to fly it though.  Something is up with that don't you think.    :old:
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Re: World War IIís Worst Airplane
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2020, 06:09:09 AM »
Every BofB scenario in AH people flock to fly it though.  Something is up with that don't you think.    :old:
In AH 110s firepower is more extreme in comparison to the single engine fighters than in real life. It is also easier to bring these guns to bear since we shoot from longer ranges than RL. Put 4 cannons on any AH bird and you got yourself a potent platform.

I suspect that real pilots were less worried about how tiny are the pieces than they will shred the enemy plane into, and much more worried about their chances of survival. This is why they valued speed and maneuverability over firepower. All those cannons in the nose are no good when the enemy is on your 6.
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Re: World War IIís Worst Airplane
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2020, 06:26:56 AM »
I think part of the issue with the 110 in the BoB was that when it was tied to close escort duties to the bombers and bounced by RAF fighters who sometimes mistook them for Dornier bombers. In AH 110 pilots don't have their hands tied this way and can use their planes to free hunt from altitude and BnZ the RAF fighters.

The other issue with the AH 110 is that it isn't the same variant as was used in the BoB. IIRC our one has more powerful engines but is a bit heavier which should help it zoom climb. Likewise many 109s in the RL BoB lacked cannons and in RL both the Ju-87s and 88s were slower and less powerfully armed variants. Also do AH'S Spits and Hurris get the major benefit of the 100 octane fuel introduced during the battle or are they just running at 1,050 hp?