This Game Dies Because

[Saxman]

Bleh. More ETO.

Call me when someone finally gets around to Aces of the Pacific 2.

[CptTrips]

Bleh. More ETO.

Call me when someone finally gets around to Aces of the Pacific 2.

OK.  How about Guadalcanal?

"Cactus Air Force"

[AKKuya]

We don't have that bulldozer to go around and clear all the trees from the game!!!!!

or, giving us C4 explosives when we bail from the plane and land on the ground and make things go BOOM!!!!!!! 

[Saxman]

OK.  How about Guadalcanal?

"Cactus Air Force"
(Image removed from quote.)

That would be an excellent one to start with considering the length and scale, especially if you include the ancillary carrier operations (Santa Cruz, Eastern Solomons, etc.). I've read quite a few very arguments that Guadalcanal was even more important than Midway (for one, the losses to Japan's experienced air crews were over stated considering so many simply jumped over the side and were rescued. Guadalcanal was the battle that truly ground them up).

[guncrasher]

By my math that's 12,400 a month.

Has that changed?

I'm not nitpicking the numbers, in any case, as the point was simply that there are lots of potential customers out there.

By your math 12,400 a month x24 months since that quote, that's 350,000 accounts.  Let's say 1 tenth of 1% stick around.  Where the hell are they?



semp

[CptTrips]

That would be an excellent one to start with considering the length and scale, especially if you include the ancillary carrier operations (Santa Cruz, Eastern Solomons, etc.). I've read quite a few very arguments that Guadalcanal was even more important than Midway (for one, the losses to Japan's experienced air crews were over stated considering so many simply jumped over the side and were rescued. Guadalcanal was the battle that truly ground them up).

I could see a campaign spanning the initial early days of operating off a muddy pock marked runway under constant bombardment, out numbered all the way to the final mission of launching P-38's from Henderson for the Yamamoto hit. 

It would make a great story arc.

 

[Oldman731]

That would be an excellent one to start with considering the length and scale, especially if you include the ancillary carrier operations (Santa Cruz, Eastern Solomons, etc.). I've read quite a few very arguments that Guadalcanal was even more important than Midway (for one, the losses to Japan's experienced air crews were over stated considering so many simply jumped over the side and were rescued. Guadalcanal was the battle that truly ground them up).

This setup appears periodically in AvA.  It works very well if you have a certain minimum number of people.  When that happens, the Americans fly historically, that is, with wingmen, using B&Z tactics, and it's a competitive environment.  If you don't have that minimum number, the Americans, flying Wildcats and P-39Ds against A6M2s and 3s, have an unpleasant problem (also historical).  You always come away with respect for what the real US pilots were up against.

Agreed on importance of the battle.  It was the death of the Japanese navy, and of its best (and irreplaceable) pilots.

- oldman

[Saxman]

This setup appears periodically in AvA.  It works very well if you have a certain minimum number of people.  When that happens, the Americans fly historically, that is, with wingmen, using B&Z tactics, and it's a competitive environment.  If you don't have that minimum number, the Americans, flying Wildcats and P-39Ds against A6M2s and 3s, have an unpleasant problem (also historical).  You always come away with respect for what the real US pilots were up against.

Agreed on importance of the battle.  It was the death of the Japanese navy, and of its best (and irreplaceable) pilots.

- oldman

Midway and Guadalcanal are a lot like Gettysburg and Vicksburg: The former gets all the press, but it's the latter that really won the war.

[CptTrips]

This setup appears periodically in AvA.  It works very well if you have a certain minimum number of people.  When that happens, the Americans fly historically, that is, with wingmen, using B&Z tactics, and it's a competitive environment.  If you don't have that minimum number, the Americans, flying Wildcats and P-39Ds against A6M2s and 3s, have an unpleasant problem (also historical).  You always come away with respect for what the real US pilots were up against.

Now imagine adding in the effects of maybe a couple of hours sleep a night, malaria, dysentery, near starvation diet....

And I complain if there is nothing good on TV. 

[Vraciu]

By your math 12,400 a month x24 months since that quote, that's 350,000 accounts.  Let's say 1 tenth of 1% stick around.  Where the hell are they?



semp

Man I wish I knew.      It's an astonishing figure if it is even remotely accurate. 

[Vraciu]

That would be an excellent one to start with considering the length and scale, especially if you include the ancillary carrier operations (Santa Cruz, Eastern Solomons, etc.). I've read quite a few very arguments that Guadalcanal was even more important than Midway (for one, the losses to Japan's experienced air crews were over stated considering so many simply jumped over the side and were rescued. Guadalcanal was the battle that truly ground them up).

The Solomons Campaign as a whole is what did it, not just Guadalcanal.

[CptTrips]

By your math 12,400 a month x24 months since that quote, that's 350,000 accounts.  Let's say 1 tenth of 1% stick around.  Where the hell are they?

[edit]

Never mind.  I can't do math after 6pm.


Maybe Hitech is killing them and burying them in the garden.

[Puma44]

[edit]

Never mind.  I can't do math after 6pm.

Higher math in public after dark never goes well. 

[Vraciu]

PNG?

Sorry.   Thought I was being nice.  Hope it's a mistake.   

[lunaticfringe]

Besides all of the gaming of the game that doesn't seem to get mentioned in the "HTC won't do what I say" whines, the main thing that is speeding up the demise is all of the whining, back-biting and personal urination contests that go on in the forum. The forum is why I stopped playing a game that was just fine, despite all the people who decided that they knew better than Dale.

Copperhed-where u been-how are u doing.