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Offline Vinkman

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black out from G loads
« on: March 25, 2020, 04:08:27 PM »
Do all plane have the same black out limits? Or is pilot position and G-suits factored into when each plane enters a blackout?
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2020, 04:17:26 PM »
Good question.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2020, 04:52:09 PM »
All G-limits for pilots seem the same for me, I haven't seen any difference.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2020, 06:11:20 PM »
It's 6G for blackout for all aircraft. You can hit it momentarily but sustaining it will black you out. You start to black out by sustaining near 6G.

An F-16 pilot I flew with once told me that after you get used to it 6G feels like 4G did when you started.
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2020, 07:12:50 PM »
With that question, does a pilot’s position have a significant influence on Gs and if so can it be modeled?


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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2020, 07:35:32 PM »
With that question, does a pilot’s position have a significant influence on Gs and if so can it be modeled?

In some cases it is modeled already. If you fall out of your plane.... when you hit the ground you will see how much coffee is in the.pot in the tower.
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2020, 10:53:02 PM »
With that question, does a pilot’s position have a significant influence on Gs and if so can it be modeled?

Reclined seat position, pilot conditioning, morphology, and fatigue all affect G tolerance but are not modeled.

I'm guessing seat position could be modeled if you'd like to put it on the wish list.

I haven't seen any data on the difference just a general comment regarding the FW-190 series.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 08:11:56 AM »
Reclined seat position, pilot conditioning, morphology, and fatigue all affect G tolerance but are not modeled.

I'm guessing seat position could be modeled if you'd like to put it on the wish list.

I haven't seen any data on the difference just a general comment regarding the FW-190 series.

It would be nice to have some things like G-forces modeled "better" so that some planes like the 190 could have more of an advantage.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2020, 09:49:55 AM »
It would be nice to have some things like G-forces modeled "better" so that some planes like the 190 could have more of an advantage.
How much more of an advantage does a 190 need?
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 09:59:13 AM »
How much more of an advantage does a 190 need?

This.  Although it's a bit "gamey" I don't think it's a bad idea that some things are consistent across the board.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2020, 10:42:16 AM »
What would be the correct difference in G tolerance?

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2020, 10:52:15 AM »
How much more of an advantage does a 190 need?

Perk doras if you need to, 2-5 points. It would definitely be a welcome boost to the A and F series.

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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2020, 10:58:42 AM »
It would be nice to have some things like G-forces modeled "better" so that some planes like the 190 could have more of an advantage.

So then those who fly more are more tolerant.....
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2020, 12:25:41 PM »
Reclined seat position, pilot conditioning, morphology, and fatigue all affect G tolerance but are not modeled.

I'm guessing seat position could be modeled if you'd like to put it on the wish list.

I haven't seen any data on the difference just a general comment regarding the FW-190 series.

I was also reading the WWII corsairs had an early version of a G-suit. difference could be modeled that are aricraft design factors, like G-suits and pilot positions.  :salute
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Re: black out from G loads
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2020, 12:41:45 PM »
100 perks per flight with g-suit.  :old: