Author Topic: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"  (Read 2798 times)

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Butch wasn't one of the higher scoring aces of the Jolly Rogers (6 victories), but what he should be known for was his engineering  prowess. Davenport was assigned by squadron leader Tom Blackburn as the engineering officer. He worked closely with the Vought tech reps as the squadron fought to deck-tame the Corsair and was instrumental in developing the spoiler placed on the right wing to give advance warning of stall and thus prevent the deadly snap roll the airplane was capable of during a stall in landing configuration; he was also influential in coming up with the fix to “de-bounce” the Corsair by reducing the pressure in the main gear oleos, as well as the removal of the top three cowl laps to prevent oil smearing the canopy.

From Models Ive seen of this one it was lighter colored, if anything I may try and mute the colors further to near grays. This was his third plane and the number was painted over with sea blue and then the 9 added. Also the tape to seal the fuel leaks was also painted over with the same sea blue.

Learned a ton from the first one and applied what i could here, mainly staying the hell away from black on blue planes and muting it where possible.
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2020, 04:58:57 PM »
Love it! Diggin the theme. (Imagining several VF-17 skins being used by several VF-17 players).





Lt. Butch Davenport showed an aptitude for engineering and became the squadron maintenance officer, working with the Vought rep to develop an extremely useful airflow spoiler.

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2020, 05:15:25 PM »
Good stuff. 

Two minor suggestions:

The vertical frame waves on the fuselage could use a little toning down and the light blue needs to go up over the top of the national insignia there as well (not sure if this is due to the coloration of the photo--compare to a black and white).

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2020, 05:20:52 PM »
Good stuff. 

Two minor suggestions:

The vertical frame waves on the fuselage could use a little toning down and the light blue needs to go up over the top of the national insignia there as well.


I'll take a look at those, as usual soon as i post i see a couple things as well.

Love it! Diggin the theme. (Imagining several VF-17 skins being used by several VF-17 players).

There are a few request from the squad lol, Big Jim's #3 is on the list. There are some Marine Corsairs I'm looking at and if any other Corsair squads existed in AH still I'd be happy to help.

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2020, 05:37:50 PM »
Nicely done.

I agree with V about toning down the rib detail on the fuselage. You might want to make a few more tweaks with your Normal map while you are adjusting the ribs. Some of your hatches have panel lines that look over done. For example: it looks odd seeing inspection hatches on the horizontal stab with better defined lines than the trim tab.

V, that color image is a modern colorization. Here is the true photo.



The insignia surround is lighter than Sea Blue but darker than the Intermediate Blue. Could it have still been Insignia Red at this point?
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2020, 05:41:03 PM »
There are a few request from the squad lol, Big Jim's #3 is on the list. There are some Marine Corsairs I'm looking at and if any other Corsair squads existed in AH still I'd be happy to help.

That's how #3 got to be my original number. I'm Jim and I'm big. ;)

Later on I added a '2' and the art for 'First Mate.'

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2020, 06:06:21 PM »
I wonder about the practicality in giving Kep's plane an update:


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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2020, 06:14:39 PM »
I wonder about the practicality in giving Kep's plane an update:
I’d like to get one more of original in before adopting old skins. Although that was part of the reason I jumped into this, F4U’s are in desperate need of attention.

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2020, 06:28:22 PM »
Nicely done.

I agree with V about toning down the rib detail on the fuselage. You might want to make a few more tweaks with your Normal map while you are adjusting the ribs. Some of your hatches have panel lines that look over done. For example: it looks odd seeing inspection hatches on the horizontal stab with better defined lines than the trim tab.

V, that color image is a modern colorization. Here is the true photo.

The insignia surround is lighter than Sea Blue but darker than the Intermediate Blue. Could it have still been Insignia Red at this point?

I’ll look in to the N map, you’re right about those lines. Now for the insignia there’s a belief that VF-17 never flew a combat sortie with the red outline. They were crossing the Panama Canal I believe when the change was made to remove it. So it is thought that it was just painted over, over time the blue fades so the red partially showed through. I fall in line with that belief, although I think the red outline looks good lol. I could try and give that effect of red underneath, just worried about things going purple.

Forgot to add this was his plane in his second Tour in 1944, red should have been gone by then.
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2020, 07:26:24 PM »
Nicely done.

I agree with V about toning down the rib detail on the fuselage. You might want to make a few more tweaks with your Normal map while you are adjusting the ribs. Some of your hatches have panel lines that look over done. For example: it looks odd seeing inspection hatches on the horizontal stab with better defined lines than the trim tab.

V, that color image is a modern colorization. Here is the true photo.

(Image removed from quote.)

The insignia surround is lighter than Sea Blue but darker than the Intermediate Blue. Could it have still been Insignia Red at this point?

It looks red based on that photo.
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2020, 01:57:33 AM »
Adjusted the normal map, ribs are toned down and the hatches were so off I can only guess I hit a "g" key on my keyboard that corresponds to the layer opacity command in Photoshop.

Concerning the insignia outline I've referenced two books on it, Vought F4U Corsair vol. 1 and VF-17 'Jolly Rogers', Early US Navy Corsair Units: VF-12 and VF-17. I'll give the short version as its two pages in both just on this.

May 15 1942 BuAer 06230 document (included in ALNAV 97 and 98 bulletins May 6 and 7) introduces the Blue Disc with 5 pointed star on on upper and lower wings, rear fuselage. 6 markings

January 5 1942 specifications SR-2c with effect date of February 1, reduces to 4 markings Fuselage unchanged. Upper Port and Lower Starboard and apply with non-specular paint.

First VF-17 F4U-1's are received with this marking during training.

June 28/29 1943 Position change, ALNAV Dispatch 97 from May 16 1943 and by Army-Navy specification AN-I-9A on June 29 1943 white bars added with all outlined in red. Also in notice is Star to be painted equal parts Insignia White and Light Gray if the wing is Semi-Gloss Blue. Only affects Navy for most part.

At this time VF-17 still has "-1's" and is training on the USS Bunker Hill off Trinidad in late July. Photos show application of this on only one newly received F4U-1, rest still have disc and star.

Commanders from 5th and 13th Air Forces protest the red. They ordered only the white bars be added, no red.

July 31 1943 Rear Admiral Halsey ordered directive 300224 to all commands, bases and ships in SoPac "as an immediate expedient to prevent uncertainty of identification and pending further decision to elminate the RED BORDER on SoPac planes."

A blue hue was never specified so they were painted over with the camo color and in some cases different shade on top and bottom.

August 14 1943 AN-I-96 follows Halsey's directive and orders all new planes leaving the factory have a dark blue outline.

VF-17 starts to receive new F4U-1A's in August

September 14 1943 further, ALNAV dispatch 164 ordered red be removed in operational units. Some weren't bothering to cover the old disc and star markings or red outline.

September 24 1943 AN-I-9b from August is revised to define all outlines to be replaced by Insignia Blue on all aircraft of all air armed services.

Photos from Panama Canal crossing in September show the starboard wing didn't even have outline markings. Just disc, star and white bars. Fuselage marking may have had red outline. VF-17 doesn't report for operational duty till October 27. I believe by then that any traces of the illegal red outlines are painted over and anything showing is from the blue fading away.

The number 5 aircraft above is what I believe what most VF-17 Corsairs looked like during the first tour. The plane I did is second tour January - March 1944, where they should have had national markings corrected during leave.  I'd say it most defiantly should have the insignia blue at that point.
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2020, 02:45:32 AM »
Another very nice skin Whiteman. Are you sticking to VF-17 or are you going to move on to other units and variants later? There aren't all that many changes needed to the F4U-1A template to turn it into any of the other four AH Corsair versions as I recall.

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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2020, 03:17:17 AM »
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2020, 03:43:35 AM »
Another very nice skin Whiteman. Are you sticking to VF-17 or are you going to move on to other units and variants later? There aren't all that many changes needed to the F4U-1A template to turn it into any of the other four AH Corsair versions as I recall.

I plan on doing Marine units, the -1 and -1D for sure, -1C and -4 if any need adopting. Looking for any RZNAF as well. I'd like to get to Wildcats and Hellcats in the future. I just have lots of VF-17 books and info here plus getting to read about the pilots you get attached to the person behind the stick.

edit: I was the CO for our squad years ago and i had gotten emails from family members of VF-17 pilots that were looking for any surviving members or their family. I couldn't help them on that end but they really appreciated a group of guys honoring them in a digital way. So I do have a special interest in doing VF-17 Corsairs.
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Re: F4U-1A Lt.(j.g.) Merl W. “Butch” Davenport VF-17 "Lonesome Polecat"
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2020, 09:25:49 AM »
Concerning the insignia outline I've referenced two books on it, Vought F4U Corsair vol. 1 and VF-17 'Jolly Rogers', Early US Navy Corsair Units: VF-12 and VF-17. I'll give the short version as its two pages in both just on this...

Great info. I knew the red border had a short shelf life, but I did not know specifically when they were eliminated.

Here's another esoteric Corsair question. What are the white stripes that are commonly seen on the cowls of VF-17 Corsairs? I know that they are for - sealing panel gaps to prevent oil from being blown back onto the windscreen. But is the material paint or some sort of tape?

I noticed that both of your skins depict planes that did not have the stripes. And we can see in this thread that Butch had planes in both configurations. Since you say that your skin represents Butch's second tour aircraft, was this problem solved midway in the -1A production by Vaught?
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