Author Topic: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY  (Read 6564 times)

Offline SPKmes

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 12:25:30 PM »
"That is not all that fair. When there are 5 people on one side and 15 on the other 2, ENY kicks in. This is a common situation in the MA today and the system was not designed for 35 people. It does not work when there are so few people on, it only starts to work once there is about 70 people on. ENY should be turned off until each side has at least 10 players."

Truth. The game mechanic that was created for hundreds is completely broken when sides get down to dozens.

I think that is a good idea .... there wasn't many times you would be knocked to almost 30 ENY when you had hundreds of people on ... but it happens almost daily with less than 20 people on.


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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 12:27:41 PM »
Obviously you don't understand why there is eny.

No one has to be under eny, they just choose to.
lol!! Sooooo ENY was designed to reduce the vehicles and aircraft to the side that has the least amount of players inflight???? Cause that's how it's working currently.... Does that sound like a working side balancing program?..... It works on potential amount of inflight players not the actual amount of inflight players soooooo it needs tweeking a bit in my opinion....PS I fly brewsters ENY safe but it's still broken
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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2020, 12:48:50 PM »
In my over 20 years in the game I've seen dozens upon dozens of posts about how ENY is unfair.  It's getting tiresome.
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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2020, 01:00:51 PM »
In my over 20 years in the game I've seen dozens upon dozens of posts about how ENY is unfair.  It's getting tiresome.
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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2020, 01:04:45 PM »
Imagine how new players might feel encountering this.

It's no wonder membership has been depleting.

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2020, 01:05:53 PM »
In my over 20 years in the game I've seen dozens upon dozens of posts about how ENY is unfair.  It's getting tiresome.

Got a good feeling about this one and the other two changing HT's mind.  Really, this time it will work.

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2020, 01:08:16 PM »
I've been flying under the Bish flag for the better part of 20 years, and I normally fly morning hours (EST) which almost guarantees a hi ENY. If it becomes too bothersome I change sides...problem solved. How easy was that?  :old:

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2020, 01:09:08 PM »
Imagine how new players might feel encountering this.

It's no wonder membership has been depleting.

New players encountering this know of no other system until old players like you whine about it. Even then, when they get hooked, they get hooked. If they don't get hooked, I doubt it was the ENY system that 'chased them off.'

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2020, 01:13:29 PM »
I've been flying under the Bish flag for the better part of 20 years, and I normally fly morning hours (EST) which almost guarantees a hi ENY. If it becomes too bothersome I change sides...problem solved. How easy was that?  :old:

Read above. That argument has been debunked.

New players encountering this know of no other system until old players like you whine about it. Even then, when they get hooked, they get hooked. If they don't get hooked, I doubt it was the ENY system that 'chased them off.'

Numbers don't lie, and AH don'ty have the numbers it used to.

Got a good feeling about this one and the other two changing HT's mind.  Really, this time it will work.

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Yea, I know. It's like HT has burnout and just doesn't care. Honestly I don't blame him. Same job for the last 20+ years trying to please the implacable.

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2020, 03:11:40 PM »
New players encountering this know of no other system until old players like you whine about it. Even then, when they get hooked, they get hooked. If they don't get hooked, I doubt it was the ENY system that 'chased them off.'
REALLY Arlo... then explain the reducing numbers
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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2020, 03:31:34 PM »
6 hours is way too short of a side switch limit.  I've switched to help Rooks and then got stuck with ENY later when they suddenly all logged on.  I prefer to be on the underdog side, but cant do that with sides changing numbers so quickly with so few subs.
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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2020, 03:36:34 PM »
REALLY Arlo... then explain the reducing numbers
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There are tons of reasons.

simple burn out
Some want more engine management
Some want modern graphics
numbers to low for some
"not enough playing the game my way" seems to slant toward dogfighters, everything else isn't needed
maps to small
maps to big
GV's to hard to see
GV's to easy and control the map
hackusations, that have zero merit
lack of new and continuous content
budgets that cant afford a PC that runs AH3
gameplay has had no major changes thrown in
SPIES!!!!
Personal vendettas
aging player base and personal expiration dates

I'm sure more reasons just as stupid as ENY can be added.

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2020, 03:38:56 PM »
There are tons of reasons.

simple burn out
Some want more engine management
Some want modern graphics
numbers to low for some
"not enough playing the game my way" seems to slant toward dogfighters, everything else isn't needed
maps to small
maps to big
GV's to hard to see
GV's to easy and control the map
hackusations, that have zero merit
lack of new and continuous content
budgets that cant afford a PC that runs AH3
gameplay has had no major changes thrown in
SPIES!!!!
Personal vendettas
aging player base and personal expiration dates

I'm sure more reasons just as stupid as ENY can be added.


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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2020, 03:48:58 PM »
There are tons of reasons.

simple burn out
Some want more engine management
Some want modern graphics
numbers to low for some
"not enough playing the game my way" seems to slant toward dogfighters, everything else isn't needed
maps to small
maps to big
GV's to hard to see
GV's to easy and control the map
hackusations, that have zero merit
lack of new and continuous content
budgets that cant afford a PC that runs AH3
gameplay has had no major changes thrown in
SPIES!!!!
Personal vendettas
aging player base and personal expiration dates

I'm sure more reasons just as stupid as ENY can be added.

Nice list.  One of the bigger ones you didn't mention:

free options

Might not quite be exhaustive, but I do believe the above would catch most peoples' gripes.

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Re: Nothing says 'dont play here' like ENY
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2020, 03:55:38 PM »
Imagine how new players might feel encountering this.

It's no wonder membership has been depleting.

New players are excited about flying WWII aircraft.

I imagine they are happy that the hord is not flying monster planes.
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