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Offline Mano

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The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« on: October 26, 2020, 10:02:13 PM »


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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 10:37:26 PM »
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2020, 11:21:05 PM »
Not in the next 20 years.
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 01:03:54 AM »
That's only because it takes 20 years to replace a generation of vehicles.  But the traditional ICE truck makers and their suppliers will be asking for government handouts in 5 years, not 20, thanks to no one wanting to buy a diesel truck any more.
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2020, 06:39:24 AM »
Tesla must of upgraded their graphic software. it actually has smooth lines instead of Atari era polygons
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2020, 10:43:19 AM »
A couple points. A 500 mile range per charge just isn't going to cut it for over the road operators. It certainly is viable for short haul or urban deliver trucks IF they can provide a load vs weight balance that allows them to operate on the city streets economically.  Secondly due to the idiot in charge of the PDRK (peepuls demokratik repugnant of kaliphornya) who shut down both nuke and fossil fuel power generating plants there is insufficient electrical grid to power the current load. The rotating blackouts were proof of that recently. It is estimated that to power an all electrical vehicle state with just a small car like the chevy volt it would take double the previous grid (pre anti nuke and fossil fuel plants) level of power to charge them.

In addition they neglected to talk about the issue of either recycling the batteries or disposal including the tremendous amount of hazardous waste.

I am far from a luddite but I do not see the electrical vehicle tech capable of taking over from ICE any time soon.
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 11:21:37 AM »
damn that's disconcerting. nuclear and fossils fuels are shutdown.  better call the plants since they seem to be operating.

right now we have winds at only 40mph, yesterday they were at 98, 3 fires started yesterday due to power lines and wind don't mix.  northern part of my city had no electricity yesterday due to the wind. i literally cannot get out of my apartment due to downed power lines.

did you know that 98 mph is a cat 2 hurricane without the water? there's trucks overturned all over the place. think they were 22 within 6 miles of  my house.

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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 11:38:58 AM »
We have high winds here from time to time but no fires. Probably different regulations by the powers that be.
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2020, 11:56:39 AM »
So the solar panels are pulled behind on the 5th wheel trailer?

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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2020, 11:59:12 AM »
we have high winds for days at a time. people keep building and buying houses disregarding history of winds.

that's what happened to one of my friends, she bought a beautiful house in a place were winds are a problem. thousands of houses built and not a single generator. has nothing to do with regulations, just a bad place to build houses.


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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2020, 02:03:17 PM »
A couple points. A 500 mile range per charge just isn't going to cut it for over the road operators. It certainly is viable for short haul or urban deliver trucks IF they can provide a load vs weight balance that allows them to operate on the city streets economically.

It's worse than that. The specs state 400 miles on a 30 minute (80%) recharge, it's weird as they seem to avoid stating full recharge time. Oh and that's on a Tesla megacharger. There's no info on whether that 400 miles includes capacity for aircon, lights etc. So you'd really need one of these megachargers every 300 miles or so. And if you replaced half your fleet with these trucks you'd need a lot of megachargers.


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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2020, 02:17:47 PM »
Probably like the old timers who thought their trusted corn cobs would never be replaced by the newfangled Charmin.
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2020, 02:37:05 PM »
Probably like the old timers who thought their trusted corn cobs would never be replaced by the newfangled Charmin.

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But how is the electricity going to generated recharge the batts... wind power will
not be sufficient... if fusion ever becomes viable... then, imho, it is possible
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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2020, 04:06:12 PM »
I'm not sure how filling up acres of land with solar and wind turbines are "good for the environment" but I digress. Talk about UGLY. Wind turbines completely destroyed the view of the Maui hills I had. It was ridiculous. At least smoke breaks down and wind currents push it away.

Somehow these people don't understand that mining for cobalt in Africa isn't exactly "top of the line" "work".

As Maverick stated, recycling and throwing away corroded batteries can be very dangerous and pollute far worse.

I think the Truck looks cool. Other than that, I am not really on the electric car bandwagon. I swear to God, if they force dealerships to not sell gas cars anymore, they are gonna have hell to pay. Of course it will be the dealerships going out of business and not the policy makers.

You'd think they would study the actual Tesla energy model of electricity but the powers that be wouldn't actually want a utility that was publicly free.

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Re: The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2020, 04:12:57 PM »
I think the Truck looks cool. Other than that, I am not really on the electric car bandwagon.

I would love to go all electric. But I don't think the tech or its supporting infrastructure is anywhere close to mature enough yet.