The Tesla Semi will replace The Diesel Semi

[Mister Fork]

Diesel is actually not that bad.

Are we asking ourselves the right questions? Are diesel engines and CO2 emissions really the true problem? Or is it the rape of the world for natural resources with pollution tied to endless growth and consumerism going to end us way faster than a warming planet will?

[Shuffler]

Next they will kill everyone at 30 years old.....  oh wait, That is Logan's Run.

[BoilerDown]

Here's what Mr. Fork should have posted instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6qMGBUEyig

[100Coogn]

Next they will kill everyone at 30 years old.....  oh wait, That is Logan's Run.

Showing your age Shuff... 

Coogan

[guncrasher]

oil ain't gonna last forever and coal is not really an alternative to a fuel engine.

so wait another 50 years, sure we can find more oil. or start looking for alternatives, except manteca, as a pig I'm against it.

who am i kidding, I'm making chicharrones tomorrow.


semp

[Meatwad]

[BoilerDown]

https://electrek.co/2020/11/24/tesla-semi-electric-truck-621-miles-range-elon-musk

Addresses quite a few concerns made in this thread coincidentally.

[Maverick]

No matter how many miles per charge the truck gets there is simply insufficient electrical grid capacity (mostly from coal and natural gas) to charge a large conversion to electric vehicles. the situation on the far west coast is a preview of what I am talking about.

[Scared]

innovation will prevail. china will steal it, but we will do the next great thing too.

[Mister Fork]

Another elephant in the room.

The existing grid doesn't have the capacity to charge no more than a move to 5% of electrically charged vehicles/trucks, and no state/province have plans to address that shortfall.

FFS, a regional heat wave taxes almost every system we have in North America (it's an integrated grid). How TF are we to manage moving to electrical grid of charging vehicles and then cope with hotter/longer heat waves and people coming home at night to charge their cars, shippers to their trucks, and then all the tech we now have in our homes that also eat into the demands on the grid.

And no, adding solar/wind power does NOT address the increase demand - it's designed to replace/augment existing.

[BoilerDown]

FUD:

Another elephant in the room.

The existing grid doesn't have the capacity to charge no more than a move to 5% of electrically charged vehicles/trucks, and no state/province have plans to address that shortfall.

FFS, a regional heat wave taxes almost every system we have in North America (it's an integrated grid). How TF are we to manage moving to electrical grid of charging vehicles and then cope with hotter/longer heat waves and people coming home at night to charge their cars, shippers to their trucks, and then all the tech we now have in our homes that also eat into the demands on the grid.

And no, adding solar/wind power does NOT address the increase demand - it's designed to replace/augment existing.

Reality:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2020/08/01/evs-are-not-a-problem-for-the-electric-grid-they-are-the-solution

[Shuffler]

Another elephant in the room.

The existing grid doesn't have the capacity to charge no more than a move to 5% of electrically charged vehicles/trucks, and no state/province have plans to address that shortfall.

FFS, a regional heat wave taxes almost every system we have in North America (it's an integrated grid). How TF are we to manage moving to electrical grid of charging vehicles and then cope with hotter/longer heat waves and people coming home at night to charge their cars, shippers to their trucks, and then all the tech we now have in our homes that also eat into the demands on the grid.

And no, adding solar/wind power does NOT address the increase demand - it's designed to replace/augment existing.

Well in kalifornia they have blackouts. Those days they can't charge their vehicles. Also it would probably mean more blackouts for them.... even the ones who do not get electric vehicles.

[guncrasher]

Well in kalifornia they have blackouts. Those days they can't charge their vehicles. Also it would probably mean more blackouts for them.... even the ones who do not get electric vehicles.

blackouts has to do with wind and not lack of power this time of year.  and it's not like you have a whole city without power.


semp

[Shuffler]

blackouts has to do with wind and not lack of power this time of year.  and it's not like you have a whole city without power.


semp

So wind and no charging your car.....

[Rondar]

My son in law has a Tesla car. He can drive it to work and back for approximately a week.  So, rolling blackouts are not a problem per se.  He will have a problem if it is sustained or if mother nature keeps power off for a long time.  If I were to have a Tesla myself, you can bet I would have a generator of sufficient capability to charge it.  And yes, somewhat defeating the purpose, but would still have the ability to drive.  The same person using dinosaur fuel might have a problem if electricity is off long enough for him/her to run out of gas or diesel and can't fill up anywhere.  I live rural so I already have a generator with enough gas to weather out a fair amount of grid down time, as I like a bit of heat and the refrigerators and freezers operating.

As far as trucks go, yes, probably have to be charged every day.  Could be a problem for a while.  And, I'm pretty sure an average 5,000 watt home generator will take a long time to charge a Semi Truck.