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« Reply #105 on: December 21, 2020, 07:18:11 PM »
Maybe they shouldn't put it on their social media then...

These "conspiracy theories" you say are backed up by their own post, celebrities and bankers admissions alike. You can see the signs everywhere that Satan or lucifer is who they really worship, for fame and money. Music industry is the worst. Why do you think they mock Jesus and God more than Mohammed and Islam?

Turning a blind eye to it while calling others crazy is pretty disgusting. Your ignorance to the truth is why the establishment Republicans are failures.

Who worships Satan? I am very interested in this. Where can I see this information?
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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #106 on: December 21, 2020, 07:26:38 PM »
If Trump had been declared the winner I have no doubt we'd have seen duplicates of the Portland Burning riots in all the major blue cities.

No doubt at all.

Imagine if 140,000 votes were thrown out in Michigan court. Oh man. I'm going to the woods.

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #107 on: December 21, 2020, 07:28:58 PM »
So who are we really afraid of?

Some guy said red headed brown shirts. How as backwards can u see it?

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2020, 07:29:28 PM »
....... his base - are convinced that he possesses some level of knowledge or understanding about industry, entertainment, the media and Government that is far beyond a level the rest of us are able to comprehend......

He does know stuff that nobody ever knew  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uUyiE0fzJ4

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« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2020, 07:34:35 PM »
You give the whole story a bit much.  Trump has the ability to do as he pleases without much of a political restraint. "Try it, what have you got to lose."  That is exactly the mind set we would not get from the swamp. They dont have the guts to do what is right. Many in the media cried foul to hear that. And would try to label him a bleach dealer.  Others se it as removing the medical red tape that will not allow Americans to get potential life saving treatments.  Getting nothing or ineffective remdesimir shots because there is no other option is the swamps position.

Did that help?

Honestly... not at all.

You start with a Trump premise that a "swamp" even exists. Furthermore, for the US President to name-call like a spoiled child demeans everyone he is supposed to represent.
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« Reply #110 on: December 21, 2020, 07:59:42 PM »
Maybe they shouldn't put it on their social media then...

Clinton, Biden, Soros and other "Deep State Agents" posted on FB and Twitter about being satanists that raped and ate little children in the basement of a pizza parlor in Maryland?

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These "conspiracy theories" you say are backed up by their own post, celebrities and bankers admissions alike. You can see the signs everywhere that Satan or lucifer is who they really worship, for fame and money. Music industry is the worst. Why do you think they mock Jesus and God more than Mohammed and Islam?

Show the evidence these people worship Satan.  Do you have pictures of them in black robes praying to Satan?

How do you know Christianity is mocked more in music than Islam?  Post the stats that show the ratio. 

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Turning a blind eye to it while calling others crazy is pretty disgusting. Your ignorance to the truth is why the establishment Republicans are failures.

You are the reason why the Republican party is in the state it is in, not me.  I am not the batchit crazy person who worships at the alter of the Orange Cow and is deluded by an internet troll posting nutter conspiracies.
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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #111 on: December 22, 2020, 05:18:54 AM »
Honestly... not at all.

You start with a Trump premise that a "swamp" even exists. Furthermore, for the US President to name-call like a spoiled child demeans everyone he is supposed to represent.

Swamp was used to represent status quo.  Not quite trumps swamp but close.

Projection of a option fabricated in your own opinion is dangerous.  Look how much ridiculous assumptions have been made here.  Blah blah blah if you think this then u think that. If you did this you will do that.  Its b.s., narrow minded self centered fake news fearmongering falsehoods.

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« Reply #112 on: December 22, 2020, 10:26:49 AM »
Swamp was used to represent status quo.  Not quite trumps swamp but close.

Projection of a option fabricated in your own opinion is dangerous.  Look how much ridiculous assumptions have been made here.  Blah blah blah if you think this then u think that. If you did this you will do that.  Its b.s., narrow minded self centered fake news fearmongering falsehoods.

I saw no assumptions in my question. I'll ask the question in simpler terms. How does a loud mouth, overweight, senior citizen command such loyalty? All I see as obvious is that his theme makes it acceptable to hate.
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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #113 on: December 22, 2020, 10:44:16 AM »
Busher, I think you're buying into the Orange Man Bad syndrome.

Trump loyalty, IMO, is easy to explain. He got things done that a large portion of the populace have been wanting to see for decades. Yeah, his Tweets were stupid.

Yeah, he didn't couch is language in the disingenuous way of most politicians. He was  brash, he was rude...all the personality traits the have heads exploding. But unlike say...Mr. Polite Mitch Romney...he got things done.

What things? Well, while the Orange Man Bad crowd can't list anything other than personality that made them hate Trump, his supporters see stuff like:

Truly improved the VA.
Significantly slowed illegal immigration.
Definitely improved the Middle East Arab/Israeli situation.
Best black/hispanic female job numbers ever
Best unemployment numbers ever
Booming economy
Renegotiated bad trade deals.

There's many many more things that he actually got done that his supporters have waited to see a politician DO for decades.

I think that's why he gets the support he does. Personality traits? Who cares? If you have a brain tumor do you want the very best surgeon even if he's a total icehole or do you want some kind and caring Doc that really doesn't get it done?

And, no offense, but all that MSM stuff about Trump being a racist and a hater is just BS. IMO.
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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #114 on: December 22, 2020, 11:07:43 AM »
IHow does a loud mouth, overweight, senior citizen command such loyalty?


Other loud mouth, overweight, senior citizens finally found their mascot and permission to let the freak flag fly.   :rolleyes:


And he got nothing done. 

Every judge he pushed through was just from a list from the Federalist society and any Republican President would have pushed through. 

Everything else he did was via Executive Order. 

Funny thing about Executive Orders.  They can be undone with a stroke of the pen just as easily.  Easier in fact.  I'm sure someone has listed all his EO that need to be rescinded.  They can be bundle into a single EO revoking them with a single stroke of the pen.

In 6 months it will be like he never existed, except for the lingering stench.











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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #115 on: December 22, 2020, 11:23:33 AM »
I saw no assumptions in my question. I'll ask the question in simpler terms. How does a loud mouth, overweight, senior citizen command such loyalty? All I see as obvious is that his theme makes it acceptable to hate.

Lets flip the question just to try answer your question.

How is it a president who fosters the first peace deals in the Middle east in 40 years, is the first president in 40 years not to engage our military in new military battles,  had a 49 year unemployment low, generated the lowest African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded, lifted more then 3 million people off of food stamps, created better trade deals with Mexico and Canada , is the first president to say screw you to the politically correct / identity politics  crowd , does not receive more respect.

Now there are many more things that Trump has done that conservatives think are great that you might disagree with, but I intentionally left those out. But they do effect how conservatives think about him.

My point is not that Trump is in anyway perfect.Most conservatives see the faults. But I do ask myself could some one with out Trumps faults have accomplished the things Trump has .

You appear to have  confirmation bias about the good things trump has done. What I personal like most about him is how he has shown a light on the culture war and showed what side most of the media are on in that war by making their heads explode when he refuse to act as they wish.

The other thing some people recognize is the non filter on trump. It is our view that he says what he thinking. In my opinion he uses to much hyperbole,but for many of us after listening to most politicians who always have a hidden agenda and lie straight to you face to try achieve their real goal, I have never seen that in Trump.

When we look at what he promised in his 2016 campaign, we see he did his best to try accomplish all his promises. Biden promised to give free health care to all illegal  immigrants ,  do you believe he really wants to do that?

In 2016 I was not a Trump supporter, I wanted Cruz (my senator) to get the nomination. I had a very bad view of trump for many of the reasons you state. For a month or more after the convention I considered voting 3rd party.But I voted for Trump because my view was that Hillary would take us down a bad path. Trumps promise on the SC nominees was worth the risk.  Hence Trump was the less of two evils.

Since he was elected he was trying to accomplish more conservative goals  then I had ever thought possible. When I saw this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZAKpjIpLFI

Of trump shaking hands with out a break, it gave me a view of what was important to trump. For an hour straight he makes sure he congratulate each an every cadet.

So I do not believe anything I post would turn you into a Trump supporter, but your question was
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How does a loud mouth, overweight, senior citizen command such loyalty?


I believe I have layed out many valid reasons ( you might disagree with there weight)  for supporting trump if you are a conservative.

But to answer in one phase, Trump was the first president since Regan that earned  conservatives trust by constantly fighting for conservative values.

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #116 on: December 22, 2020, 11:24:26 AM »
China has destroyed America without firing a shot

Between corruption of our leaders and their covid economy killer I am not sure it can survive

Many here in the US do not think it should and are helping with its downfall

Seems we ran out of leaders awhile ago

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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #117 on: December 22, 2020, 11:38:01 AM »
Clinton, Biden, Soros and other "Deep State Agents" posted on FB and Twitter about being satanists that raped and ate little children in the basement of a pizza parlor in Maryland?

Show the evidence these people worship Satan.  Do you have pictures of them in black robes praying to Satan?

How do you know Christianity is mocked more in music than Islam?  Post the stats that show the ratio. 

You are the reason why the Republican party is in the state it is in, not me.  I am not the batchit crazy person who worships at the alter of the Orange Cow and is deluded by an internet troll posting nutter conspiracies.

Just start with these examples. I'll need more time to put something more comprehensive together.

CEO of Twitter reading satanic verses
https://mobile.twitter.com/jack/status/5081?lang=en

Jean Luc Brunel arrested. Another huge tie to the cabal.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thecut.com/amp/2020/12/jean-luc-brunel-alleged-epstein-accomplice-found.html

Another Epstein accomplice Jean Lucas Brunel and friend taken down. That makes Weinstein, matt lauer, les moonves, Epstein, 'jon of God', epstein, Maxwell, and NXVM founder all arrested during the Trump presidency.

Listen to Ronald Bernards story. He was a high level banker. Both are Ronald interviews. The first one was the big one that shocked the world.
Fast forward to 23 minutes, you will see, but you should watch it fully.




This is a small example until I have more time to find sources and post.
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Re: For Trump Lovers
« Reply #118 on: December 22, 2020, 11:46:03 AM »
Lets flip the question just to try answer your question.

How is it a president who fosters the first peace deals in the Middle east in 40 years, is the first president in 40 years not to engage our military in new military battles,  had a 49 year unemployment low, generated the lowest African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded, lifted more then 3 million people off of food stamps, created better trade deals with Mexico and Canada , is the first president to say screw you to the politically correct / identity politics  crowd , does not receive more respect.

Now there are many more things that Trump has done that conservatives think are great that you might disagree with, but I intentionally left those out. But they do effect how conservatives think about him.

My point is not that Trump is in anyway perfect.Most conservatives see the faults. But I do ask myself could some one with out Trumps faults have accomplished the things Trump has .

You appear to have  confirmation bias about the good things trump has done. What I personal like most about him is how he has shown a light on the culture war and showed what side most of the media are on in that war by making their heads explode when he refuse to act as they wish.

The other thing some people recognize is the non filter on trump. It is our view that he says what he thinking. In my opinion he uses to much hyperbole,but for many of us after listening to most politicians who always have a hidden agenda and lie straight to you face to try achieve their real goal, I have never seen that in Trump.

When we look at what he promised in his 2016 campaign, we see he did his best to try accomplish all his promises. Biden promised to give free health care to all illegal  immigrants ,  do you believe he really wants to do that?

In 2016 I was not a Trump supporter, I wanted Cruz (my senator) to get the nomination. I had a very bad view of trump for many of the reasons you state. For a month or more after the convention I considered voting 3rd party.But I voted for Trump because my view was that Hillary would take us down a bad path. Trumps promise on the SC nominees was worth the risk.  Hence Trump was the less of two evils.

Since he was elected he was trying to accomplish more conservative goals  then I had ever thought possible. When I saw this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZAKpjIpLFI

Of trump shaking hands with out a break, it gave me a view of what was important to trump. For an hour straight he makes sure he congratulate each an every cadet.

So I do not believe anything I post would turn you into a Trump supporter, but your question was 

I believe I have layed out many valid reasons ( you might disagree with there weight)  for supporting trump if you are a conservative.

But to answer in one phase, Trump was the first president since Regan that earned  conservatives trust by constantly fighting for conservative values.

HiTech

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« Reply #119 on: December 22, 2020, 11:59:12 AM »
Many are too blinded by hate to note what has been done for our country.

yeah he has turned his back on our allies and made our country a laughing stock. Turn off Faux news and pay attention to THE REST OF THE WORLD! You would think, given the game we are playing here, you guys would understand the stupidity of isolationism and rampant nationalism. But...people are stubborn. All I can say is good luck! I know this is tough for right wingers to understand, but its not all about you and your beliefs. Other people matter too.
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