New Poster, old flier

[hazmatt]

Okay.....I will bite the stinky baited hook and challenge you to a 1 vs 1 , best out of 5 wins and loser of each round calls plane for next round


TC

(Shane aka Oopsy from AW was a good student that kept coming back for more FR training and became a good friend...miss him)

How about start off with B5N? that should make for an interesting fight!

[TequilaChaser]

How about start off with B5N? that should make for an interesting fight!

I'll let him pick the first plane

Also, if I lose to you (referring to AH message boards username P38Ace), I will vow  not to ever tell anyone your AH gameid!  But if you lose to me, you have to step up and post on this forum your gameid....


TC

[P38Ace]

Speaking of best sticks in the game...

Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.

When paying by the hour, k/d was deadly serious! Pilots rose to the challenge of pushing the envelope of everything they flew. But that was then. You can find those guys on IL2, I think.

[The Fugitive]

Speaking of best sticks in the game...

Anybody else notice that they used to be much better 30 years ago? lol. It's like I know what I should be doing but not doing it or my timing is off.
Maybe it's because I used to play every day back then and can't now because of RL? Not sure but curios if there's others that have had the same experience.

There are very few these days. I could maybe name a half dozen guys that are good stick and this "38" shade wouldnt come close to being on any list that I could come up with for a good stick. Now a days all you really see are the pick and run type of players. Some rack up some kills, but get them with out all that E and they die very easily.

Was defending a base and 55Bear came in to pick. Once it was just him and me ( my NIK with an oil leak vs his KI) he just ran. I turned back to the field and engaged a B25 that came in and after a couple turns guess whos back? Yup picker extraordinaire 55Bear.

No there are very few good sticks left in this game.

[hazmatt]

I can relate to this as I have tried flying a slower plane and find myself chasing fast movers around so I end up getting a D9 and using it to run down ponies because, as you said, once you catch them they don't have much fight left in them.
I've also found that if the numbers are tilted that I can take a D9 into a 1 vs many and if I don't get greedy I might be able to knock off a couple and make an escape. It makes me wonder why the D9 is not more popular. It has great turn rate around 300 and can stay with some better turners for a bit when slower using yo-yos.

What I was asking is if anybody feels that they're not as good as they used to be 20 or 30 year ago and if so why? I it that we don't play as much as we used to? Is it we're getting slower in our older ages? I am curious about that.

[svaalbar]

There are very few these days. I could maybe name a half dozen guys that are good stick and this "38" shade wouldnt come close to being on any list that I could come up with for a good stick. Now a days all you really see are the pick and run type of players. Some rack up some kills, but get them with out all that E and they die very easily.

Was defending a base and 55Bear came in to pick. Once it was just him and me ( my NIK with an oil leak vs his KI) he just ran. I turned back to the field and engaged a B25 that came in and after a couple turns guess whos back? Yup picker extraordinaire 55Bear.

No there are very few good sticks left in this game.

55Bear is cool. You gonna whine about checkertails next?

You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.

Insane really. I have nothing against runners. That is why I fly the duce now. No one can run from me now 

[hazmatt]

You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.

Erich Hartmann was a picker? Who knew! 

[svaalbar]

Erich Hartmann was a picker? Who knew! 

Im a picker myself >

Puma taught me and showed me some BFM stuff though. I'm very grateful for that.

I'm more of a B*mbtard at heart tho lol. Love flying me b17s, b24s, etc

[DmonSlyr]

I can relate to this as I have tried flying a slower plane and find myself chasing fast movers around so I end up getting a D9 and using it to run down ponies because, as you said, once you catch them they don't have much fight left in them.
I've also found that if the numbers are tilted that I can take a D9 into a 1 vs many and if I don't get greedy I might be able to knock off a couple and make an escape. It makes me wonder why the D9 is not more popular. It has great turn rate around 300 and can stay with some better turners for a bit when slower using yo-yos.

What I was asking is if anybody feels that they're not as good as they used to be 20 or 30 year ago and if so why? I it that we don't play as much as we used to? Is it we're getting slower in our older ages? I am curious about that.

Have you looked at the stats? The 190D is one of the most popular killers in the MA, along with one of the top K/Ds for non perked planes. It's one of the worst pick and run boring gameplay planes in the game. For your second question. I don't feel as good as I was in 2007-08. Definitely don't play as much nor duel as much to work on ACM because no one really likes to duel anymore for some reason. I think reading the opponents E state on the merge is more challenging in AH3 aswell.

[LCADolby]

I miss fighting Shane, fighting his La5 in my 109F was a highlight.

[Eagler]

Where can you look up MA kills by plane type?

That is how perks should be assigned and modified monthly by

The top killers should be so expensive only the most experience would have the perks to spend but would be too embarrassed to be seen in their perked birds..sadly that is not the case now

Or do a socialism move and tie score into it so the less skilled players perk rides costs are less expensive to them than the higher scorers

Silly the cost of a 262 is the same to me as someone who started yesterday

Eagler

[The Fugitive]

55Bear is cool. You gonna whine about checkertails next?

You do realize, Erich Hartmann, 352 kills, was a BnZer right? He pick and chose his battles and thought people that dog fought weere crazy. Read "Blond Knight of Germany" sure - it is a bit over the top, it was written post WW2 when tensions were very high between the West and USSR/East.

Insane really. I have nothing against runners. That is why I fly the duce now. No one can run from me now 

OH, you mean the "chickentails"? Sure they are just as bad. This game is about combat, not running and picking. Id be willing to bet that runners and pickers are in the top 3 reasons players quit this game. Oh and please dont try to use any real life people/scenarios to compare this game with. Real life and a GAME are far different. How long do you thionk COD would have lasted if players played it like real life?

In the case of my fight  with 55bear it was just him and me KI vs a my NIK leaking oil so obviously hurt and he choose to run away and come back after Id limped home and engaged a B25trying to take down the town to pick me. Great combat 

I miss fighting Shane, fighting his La5 in my 109F was a highlight.

Those were the days! Players fought! Whether it was in GVs, fighters, or bombers they fought their way through. Last night the Chickentails were flying with a bunch of other Rooks picking over a bish base, about 3 or 4 -1 in their favor. About 30 minutes later 15 Sick Puppys got together along with a few stragglers to run a mission to the base the the Rooks were working out of. 5 minutes later "POOF!" no more Rooks along the whole Bish front. Why? because they didnt want to fight, they just want easy picking kills.

It certainly one of the reason players leave, no more fights, just pickers. Now with everyone getting the green light to head outside with everything reopening and summer in full swing the numbers have dropped even more. We cant even get over 100 players on a saturday night any more. Crappy game play certainly isnt going to help keep this game going.

[hazmatt]

Have you looked at the stats? The 190D is one of the most popular killers in the MA, along with one of the top K/Ds for non perked planes. It's one of the worst pick and run boring gameplay planes in the game. For your second question. I don't feel as good as I was in 2007-08. Definitely don't play as much nor duel as much to work on ACM because no one really likes to duel anymore for some reason. I think reading the opponents E state on the merge is more challenging in AH3 aswell.

I had not looked at the stats. I was basing it on I usually see at least 5 51D to ever D9 I see.
I don't think it's boring as one of the main reasons I will switch to it from something slower is to run down ponies. If I'm in a D9 and I see a bunch of spits or other turny planes and a pony, I'll go after the pony cause it's usually an easy kill because it seems a great number of pony drivers depend on speed and when it runs out so does their luck. Vs turny planes I agree that it can be boring as I can go a few turns with them but I'm not good enough to fight an extended fight D9 vs spit for example without ending up dead.
I agree with the e state thing.  I have used it in the D9 often. I will dive to a very high rate of speed and zoom up from under an enemy unexpectedly. That thing really will zoom when it's fast.

[hazmatt]

OH, you mean the "chickentails"? Sure they are just as bad. This game is about combat, not running and picking. Id be willing to bet that runners and pickers are in the top 3 reasons players quit this game.

Or a reason that people change their tactics to deal. (as in you flying the 262)

I like to fly turny planes but the problem I have there are people who like to stay high over a fight and watch for a couple turny planes to start dancing and then make a 550mph+ pass, followed by a 5k extension... rinse repeat.

After this happening to me a few times it annoys me to the point that I will go get a fast plane and go hunting those guy. THAT to me is the boring part. Climbing to 20k to get co-alt with them and as soon as you start dancing with one pony his buddy comes in at 25k and you end up with the same result as I had while in the turny planes. Good thing about it is that in my experience most of they pony pickers are not that skilled so you can usually evade them if you have something with a decent amount of speed. I don't have much luck doing that in a turning fight in a slower plane as I'm usually focused on the slow planes and don't usually see the pony coming in from 10k above me at 550+ until it's too late.

I wonder if score/stats has anything to do with that sort of play style? I guess I don't understand how climbing to 25k every flight and disengaging if you get below 15k is fun but obviously it is to some people. lol

[The Fugitive]

Or a reason that people change their tactics to deal. (as in you flying the 262)

I like to fly turny planes but the problem I have there are people who like to stay high over a fight and watch for a couple turny planes to start dancing and then make a 550mph+ pass, followed by a 5k extension... rinse repeat.

After this happening to me a few times it annoys me to the point that I will go get a fast plane and go hunting those guy. THAT to me is the boring part. Climbing to 20k to get co-alt with them and as soon as you start dancing with one pony his buddy comes in at 25k and you end up with the same result as I had while in the turny planes. Good thing about it is that in my experience most of they pony pickers are not that skilled so you can usually evade them if you have something with a decent amount of speed. I don't have much luck doing that in a turning fight in a slower plane as I'm usually focused on the slow planes and don't usually see the pony coming in from 10k above me at 550+ until it's too late.

I wonder if score/stats has anything to do with that sort of play style? I guess I don't understand how climbing to 25k every flight and disengaging if you get below 15k is fun but obviously it is to some people. lol

Jeez I havnt flown a 262 in a while. I usually crash the first 2 or 3 before I remember how they compress.

As for the rest of the post, its spot on. Im trying to learn the 109. It cant catch much, but its fun trying to turn in it, and like you said, you are so concentrated on the fight your in that those high speed passes of the pickers arent always easily dodgable. I think many players are trying to fight, even the new ones and it is very easy to get discouraged by so many pickers.