Author Topic: Info on P-38J from 367thFG, "Little Buckaroo", flown by Maj. Robert C Rogers  (Read 4586 times)

Offline oboe

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I never did hear anything back from Hitech regarding the nose art of this skin.  I interpreted his silence at the time as disinterest in being involved with making censoring decisions, but I put P-38s on hold and moved on to skinning the B-17G.  I recently double-checked and this skin is present as an official game skin in IL-2 with accurate nose art (only the kill-tally swastikas have been altered), so it's clear the IL-2 censors don't have a problem with the nose art.  With IL-2's much larger audience and worldwide player base, I would expect their censors must adhere to rigorous standards.

I've put a little more work in on her, and here she is so far, still WIP.   If you guys think it won't pass censorship, I would probably reskin it as another bird from the same squadron, "Moonlight Cocktail".  I just prefer this more colorful nose art.



I'm guessing that there is no real formal censor group in AH any longer - it's probably just this informal discussion here on the boards, with Greebo of course having the final YES/NO as he is the one to approve skins and pass on to Hitech's skin release process.  That's really OK with me if that's how it works now; we still need some form of input after all.  So just let me know one way or the other.   It looks like I might still have time to finish this one up and get it submitted before the next batch...

Also interesting, it appears there were TWO "Lttle Buckaroos" (as unlikely as that seems).  One, serial number 43-28677, coded H5*B, and the other 44-23677, H5*A.   I haven't found hard photo evidence tying the nose art to either serial number, but it just seems unlikely that such intricate nose art would be repeated on second airframe.

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Looks nice.

One option is to round the outer corners of the swastika.  Then it is not as obvious. 
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Looks great.

I think the nose art is fine as is. It clearly represents smashing Naziism.
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I tend to agree with Devil, the art is clearly anti-Nazi and it is broken into four little "Ls". The symbolism is what counts here, not the shape. Otherwise we wouldn't be allowed accurate markings on Finnish Air Force skins. So I will approve this skin for the current batch if Oboe submits it. For anyone's future skins however, kill markings of swastikas should still be altered to crosses.

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OK, thanks guys -- I have tweaked the nose art a little more, brekaing up the central portion of white to emphasize the 'broken pieces' aspect of the symbol; the kill marks had already been changed to crosses.  As far as H5-A vs H5-B, I just noticed another unique serial number, this time on H5-A, from a photo Dan posted earlier in this thread.  The top image clearly ends in '579', not '677':



I suppose once Rogers became CO, any new air frame he received became coded H5-A.      I will probably leave it as H5-B, but intend to do some research on Joe Baugher's site first.  I should be able to submit this skin before Friday.
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