Ukraine

[Eagler]

many will die not to become russian slaves again. To draw a parallel - would you have a problem being a british subject again ? Why not, language the same, similar culture, heck, you started there.... right ?

Become a brit or die?

Is that the choice?

I used to live there and have visited since..and I love fish and chips..hmmm

Not the same thing but get your attempt at a comparison

Eagler

[guncrasher]

So an outdated law which doesnt talk about the border of America. Typical.
 

an outdated law, cool, the constitution is 100 years older, way outdated. let's get rid of it too.

it actually is an old law that serves a purpose. military should not be used to enforce laws inside the usa, that's why we have police, border patrol, customs, you know the people that are actually trained for this situations.




semp

[fd ski]

Not the same thing but get your attempt at a comparison

Actually it is your language is virtually the same, common roots can be easily traced back, last war/genocide back in 1820 ? 200 years ago ?
Russia and Ukraine - languages differ quite a bit, common roots back 2000 years ago and shaky at best, 70 years ago genocide, 30 years ago nuclear depopulation and decades of prejudice...

If you're unwilling to be british, you should understand why Ukrainians don't want to be russian

[DmonSlyr]

an outdated law, cool, the constitution is 100 years older, way outdated. let's get rid of it too.

it actually is an old law that serves a purpose. military should not be used to enforce laws inside the usa, that's why we have police, border patrol, customs, you know the people that are actually trained for this situations.




semp

First of all, the bill of rights and constitution is not a "law" per say, it protects citizens (not illegals) from the government and sets up a government structure. Funny how you claim you want to change that though. The law you and Tyfoo is talking about is about North vs South union troops, which is no longer an issue and has nothing to do with the southern border of a complete other country invading your soil. Therefore outdated. Secondly. The military is here to defend America from foreign acts of war. So why are we letting foreign acts of war invade our soil to take advantage of Americans? Further more, why are we spending 10s of millions to on a border patrol when we have a military already. What a waste. Especially when we cant even fund that enough to protect the whole border. Oh I know, because you want to destroy America while sending 18 year olds to fight in deserts or other countries across the world for your oil pipelines and agendas. You want American kids to be drugged and weakened while the establishment gets paid off. Pretty F-Ed up if you ask me. I'd expect nothing less from establishment boot lickers who want to America to collapse into the grips of the global government fascist. If Putin went after the WEF, WTO, WHO, and other criminal fraud globalist institutions. I wouldn't care one bit.

[OldNitro]

Apparently, Putin threatened Nuclear War, in his meeting with the Macaroon..
Just watched the post meeting statement from Putin, he said it again publicly..

Hmmmm, but no counter statement from the Fluffy French Cookie?
Not gettin a lot of press in the west either.. Go figure huh?

I'm tellin ya, the Russians are NOT going to allow a NATO missile umbrella over their territory!
Another military threat from the west, how did the last one end up???
EU, is barkin up the wrong tree!

Just ask the simple question.. Who, is wizzin on who's doorstep here????
If your arrogant neighbor came over and wizzed on your doorstep, would you allow it???
 , I bet some of you would!

[Eagler]

Putin is stating it's all about Crimea..that once NATO controls Ukraine they will try to take Crimea back ..

He admits his only action then are nukes with no winner..

https://youtu.be/QXCKRTqB4-o

So someone should call his bluff and promise him NATO won't invite Ukraine anytime soon and see if he withdraws his forces..not send over troops

You know we have "advisors" in Ukraine training their military now...sounds like the early 60's in another part of the world that ended poorly for US and the French before us..

fd ski
 it isn't the same thing as living under Russia rule is much more restricted than living under British rule...if the choice was everyone and everything I knew would be killed or destroyed or I became a brit..I would be on the double decker bus on my way to Liverpool with no problems..

Eagler

[Arlo]

Apparently, Putin threatened Nuclear War, in his meeting with the Macaroon..
Just watched the post meeting statement from Putin, he said it again publicly..

Hmmmm, but no counter statement from the Fluffy French Cookie?
Not gettin a lot of press in the west either.. Go figure huh?

I'm tellin ya, the Russians are NOT going to allow a NATO missile umbrella over their territory!
Another military threat from the west, how did the last one end up???
EU, is barkin up the wrong tree!

Just ask the simple question.. Who, is wizzin on who's doorstep here????
If your arrogant neighbor came over and wizzed on your doorstep, would you allow it???
 , I bet some of you would!

Smooth your hackles, ol son. You're the one sounding more frazzled than the rest. But I'll tell you something - if you don't think Putin hasn't been having a recurrent wet dream about forcing the former Soviet satellite nations back into some semblance of the former USSR (under any pretense or excuse) then you have a peculiar talent for avoiding the obvious. 

Now, is it remotely possible to unplug from political division in this topic? (heh, probably not)

[Arlo]

nm smdh

[DmonSlyr]

Smooth your hackles, ol son. You're the one sounding more frazzled than the rest. But I'll tell you something - if you don't think Putin hasn't been having a recurrent wet dream about forcing the former Soviet satellite nations back into some semblance of the former USSR (under any pretense or excuse) then you have a peculiar talent for avoiding the obvious. 

Notice how Putin doesn't seem to want to go after any other nation that borders it. You are crazy if you think Putin wants to bring back soviet Russia. Putin is not a soviet despite the constant western media propaganda.  Infact, Russia is better off today than it has been in 100 years because Putin dealt with the soviets and kickwd most of them out. The west is now controlled by thr soviets. Which is why you are seeing much more totalitarian control by west using soviet style propaganda to subvert its population. Uri Bezmenov straight called it out and has been warning America for a while. Funny how one side seems to write it off. There's your sign.

[Arlo]

Notice how Putin doesn't seem to want to go after any other nation that borders it.

And you shouldn't stuff a whole pie in your mouth at once. The rest of your post is just as stupid but I suspect it was the radicalization talking.

[OldNitro]

Smooth your hackles, ol son. You're the one sounding more frazzled than the rest. But I'll tell you something - if you don't think Putin hasn't been having a recurrent wet dream about forcing the former Soviet satellite nations back into some semblance of the former USSR (under any pretense or excuse) then you have a peculiar talent for avoiding the obvious.

NATO nations promised in signed agreements, NOT to extend Article 5 to former Soviet Republics..
BEFORE the Russians allowed those Republics out of their former security agreements..
NATO LIED! Which should be no surprise to anyone, considering who is running the EU..

Some idiots think that Russia wants them back, LOL, no way..
They are far too corrupted, bought off, but Russia is not willing to give up their western buffer!
Russia will not tolerate the 4th Reich threatening them on their OWN border..

Even the Ukrainians are telling the west to STFU!
Frazzled??? LOL,  I think it is FUNNY.. EU gettin torched would be doing the world a favor!
If the European people can't deal with their own corrupt Govts, the Russians will!

Have at it, see what happens, it'll be a great show!

[Arlo]

Whew. Now the dam is bursting with crazy all over this thread. 

[Eagler]

What's another promise when they are just broken down the road...

I think a Ukraine without NATO anytime soon should be the card the west should play not a few thousand boots on the ground that doesn't do anything but complicate everything if/when they go from advisory to active...

Sorry but Ukraine gov/leadership is not worth one drop of anyone's blood IMO..

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

And you shouldn't stuff a whole pie in your mouth at once. The rest of your post is just as stupid but I suspect it was the radicalization talking.

You are the one who is radicalized and furthering the destruction of America. I lived in craphole ran by soviets in Portland. I know exactly what you want all of America to become, a trash dump ran by children. Your cities prove how wicked your propaganda and subversion has become. Free crack pipes for all! Yay!

[Arlo]

You are the one who is radicalized and furthering the destruction of America. I lived in craphole ran by soviets in Portland. I know exactly what you want all of America to become, a trash dump. Your cities prove how wicked your propaganda and subversion has become. Free crack pipes for all! Yay!

Between the two of us one of us actually served this nation (back when there was a USSR). Sell your crazy on another corner.