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Offline Nefarious

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February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« on: January 29, 2022, 10:11:04 AM »
I know there's been some issues with orders and a few squads have stepped forward to do orders in the past few months. I selected the CICs by the dates last indicated. If you feel like you shouldn't be CIC because of this, let me know and we'll try to switch you out.

http://www.ahevents.net/index.php/fso-view-side-assignments

Allied Squadname                                CO         Commit Lvl Side       CIC Frame   

325th                                    CUTT       11 - 13    Allied           

364th C-Hawks                            RedBrd     3 - 5      Allied     2022-02-11 

412th FNVG                               Nefari     11 - 13    Allied     2022-02-04 

9GIAP VVS RKKA                           Dantoo     7 - 9      Allied     2022-02-18 

CLAIM JUMPERS                            flifast    5 - 7      Allied           

VF-17 Jolly Rogers                       Branch37   3 - 5      Allied           

Total Commitments                        Min:       40         Max:       52
       
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Axis Squadname                                CO         Commit Lvl Side       CIC Frame   

162ndFG"Purple*Hearts"                   weiser     9 - 11     Axis             

327th Steel Talons                       KOOL       3 - 5      Axis       2022-02-18 

367th Fg 'The Dynamite Gang'             DH367th    3 - 5      Axis             

Arabian Knights                          AKWarHwk   13 - 15    Axis             

III/JG11                                 Canukk     5 - 7      Axis             

JG54                                     jaeger1    5 - 7      Axis       2022-02-11 

Kommando Nowotny                         perdweeb   5 - 7      Axis             

LCA                                      OldDoom    7 - 9      Axis             

The Bad Guys                             DarkWood   9 - 11     Axis       2022-02-04 

Total Commitments                        Min:       59         Max:       77
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2022, 11:52:25 AM »
RGR sir
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2022, 02:58:42 PM »
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2022, 11:35:09 PM »
The A6M-3 has no place in this.  It is not historical.  It is not a substitute.  It is unbalancing.
I get really really tired of selective realism disguised as a desire to make bombers easier to kill.

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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2022, 12:07:06 AM »
The A6M-3 has no place in this.  It is not historical.  It is not a substitute.  It is unbalancing.

So is the B.239...
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2022, 02:43:46 AM »
Devil,  you do make a habit of being wrong don’t you.
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2022, 07:06:04 AM »
Devil,  you do make a habit of being wrong don’t you.
Have you got a source that claims B-239s served in South East Asia? I'll wait...

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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2022, 08:10:49 AM »
A CM brought it up in the design discussion that the A6M2 and Ki-43 would have difficulty competing against the Hurricane II and Brew B-239, and that I should add the A6M3.

So I made the decision to add the A6M3 with the same restrictions the Allies have on the Brew. (12 MAX)

I felt it was a fair addition, considering the small stretch of the B-239 for the B-339C/D/E.

And let's be fair, despite the differences in the Finnish Service and Allied Service in the Dutch East Indies, it isn't that much difference - especially in the crew modifications that were made by both the Finnish and the Commonwealth Allies. The Commonwealth exports had more powerful Cyclone Engines as well. Both sides scrapped the Armor and modified the guns and fuel loadout to make the aircraft more lightweight and maneuverable. So in reality, our B-239 is probably a good sub for the B-339 that saw service in the Dutch East Indies, not so much for the USN/USMC versions.

Looking over the logs, the Allies did surprisingly well. The Axis also went 2 over their allotted A6M3, not that big of an infraction, but still a violation.

As always, we'll talk it out and see if there is a problem and adjust if needed. <S>
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2022, 08:15:04 AM »
From purely a plane set standpoint, the A6M3 is fine mixed in with Brewster's. With the Axis having as many fighters as the Allies, perhaps that is where the conversation needs to happen. Maybe having so many fighters justifies alteration of the planeset? It seemed fairly balanced last night, there were moments of domination from the Axis over 16. That was all by plan, though.
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2022, 08:17:51 AM »
there were moments of domination from the Axis over 16.

LOL, as someone who was there at A16, it felt like domination for sure. But the logs show a different story all around.
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2022, 08:28:52 AM »
It seemed like plan-wise everything went right for the Axis. That doesn't happen often.  :)

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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2022, 09:01:59 AM »
I chocked up last night's victory to planning.
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2022, 09:36:25 AM »
I believe what Dantoo may be referring to is the last few moments of the Allied fighter's flight over A16. It didn't end well for them and that was historic.
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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2022, 09:36:59 AM »
Have you got a source that claims B-239s served in South East Asia? I'll wait...

Devil made the comment "So is the B239" in reply to Dantoo's post which stated "The A6m3 has no place in this. It is not historical. It is not a substitute. It is unbalancing."

The B239 was a land based modification of the Buffalo so it can be classified as a substitute for the F3F which we do not have in the plane set. Any reasonable person can see that, therefore Devil is wrong to say the b239 has no place in the plane set.

One last point, these things are supposed to be fun for both sides. They are not a completely historical recreation. The addition of a Zero with double the 20MM ammo load just makes it that much more difficult for the allies which have no A/C with cannons to compete in an environment where they have no advantages in speed, climb, or manuverability.





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Re: February 2022 FSO - Singapore Blitz: 1942 - Sides and CICs
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2022, 10:43:39 AM »
Devil made the comment "So is the B239" in reply to Dantoo's post which stated "The A6m3 has no place in this. It is not historical. It is not a substitute. It is unbalancing."

The B239 was a land based modification of the Buffalo so it can be classified as a substitute for the F3F which we do not have in the plane set. Any reasonable person can see that, therefore Devil is wrong to say the b239 has no place in the plane set.

One last point, these things are supposed to be fun for both sides. They are not a completely historical recreation. The addition of a Zero with double the 20MM ammo load just makes it that much more difficult for the allies which have no A/C with cannons to compete in an environment where they have no advantages in speed, climb, or manuverability.

You mean F2A.

Singapore was indeed historically catastrophic for the Commonwealth. But, last night was down to planning and execution, in my opinion.
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