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Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« on: August 30, 2022, 11:25:33 AM »
Is my prediction

They have already said there will be three electric motors instead of four with same horsepower and torque.




Let the naysayers begin. The electric will never replace the diesel semi   :D

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2022, 11:39:31 AM »
How much money does a regular semi truck cost?
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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2022, 11:52:11 AM »
New trucks have a price that starts at around $80,000 and can easily go to $150,000 or even more. If you go for a lot of custom-made additions, the price might even reach $200,000.

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2022, 12:52:13 PM »
Wonder how long itíll take to charge after 500 miles?



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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2022, 12:52:53 PM »
Prices for new and used on this web page.

https://bestoftrucks.com/2022-peterbilt-389-price/

It would appear the Tesla semi might be near the price range of a Peterbuilt that can
Perform the same duty.

Scotty would know more about this subject. He can explain fuel costs, maintence costs
And every fee associated with diesel semis.

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2022, 12:55:43 PM »
Projected to take 30 to 50 minutes to charge to 90 per cent. The charger will have four times the Kwatts of Tesla Superchargers.

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2022, 12:56:55 PM »
Prices for new and used on this web page.

https://bestoftrucks.com/2022-peterbilt-389-price/

It would appear the Tesla semi might be near the price range of a Peterbuilt that can
Perform the same duty.

Scotty would know more about this subject. He can explain fuel costs, maintence costs
And every fee associated with diesel semis.

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Would be interesting to know the full cost of operating both with no government assistance (our money) . Actual cost paying for everything.... no handouts.
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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2022, 01:42:55 PM »
Would be interesting to know the full cost of operating both with no government assistance (our money) . Actual cost paying for everything.... no handouts.


That would of course need to include the $20 billion or so in tax subsidies we give the petroleum industry each year.

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2022, 01:45:34 PM »

That would of course need to include the $20 billion or so in tax subsidies we give the petroleum industry each year.
Hah, for real. Plenty of industries get subsidies...but we'll use EV because it fits the narrative!

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2022, 01:58:10 PM »
Projected to take 30 to 50 minutes to charge to 90 per cent. The charger will have four times the Kwatts of Tesla Superchargers.

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2022, 03:22:11 AM »
Hah, for real. Plenty of industries get subsidies...but we'll use EV because it fits the narrative!

I have no problem with that. I said ALL COST. Of course we will include subsidies for electrical and power generation. The number one subsidized item by dollar amount.... that would be $48 billion.
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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2022, 10:45:36 AM »
I have no problem with that. I said ALL COST. Of course we will include subsidies for electrical and power generation. The number one subsidized item by dollar amount.... that would be $48 billion.

Where I live and using the price of diesel and the price of a kW/h, the "fuel" cost of the electric truck should be about 1/3 of the diesel truck. I will add that electricity is far cheaper in other areas of the country.

BUT,

It's not uncommon for quality built and well maintained diesel trucks to do as much as 750,000 miles in their service life...some even more. The jury is out on the long term cost of maintenance on electric motors and lithium-ion batteries. Also can the generation grid in all areas handle the load of all this new demand - that remains to be seen.
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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2022, 10:55:28 AM »
Where I live and using the price of diesel and the price of a kW/h, the "fuel" cost of the electric truck should be about 1/3 of the diesel truck. I will add that electricity is far cheaper in other areas of the country.

BUT,

It's not uncommon for quality built and well maintained diesel trucks to do as much as 750,000 miles in their service life...some even more. The jury is out on the long term cost of maintenance on electric motors and lithium-ion batteries. Also can the generation grid in all areas handle the load of all this new demand - that remains to be seen.

And you can rebuild the engine when the time is appropriate... can you rebuild that battery pack?

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2022, 11:26:29 AM »
And you can rebuild the engine when the time is appropriate... can you rebuild that battery pack?

Battery pack is the fuel, so the owner of the diesel truck will drill his own well and then refine the oil?

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Re: Tesla 500 mile range Semi will cost more than $200,000
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2022, 11:36:47 AM »
Battery pack is the fuel, so the owner of the diesel truck will drill his own well and then refine the oil?


No, electricity is the fuel.  Will Etrucks be generating their own electricity?
  The battery pack is the "fuel tank". That said, the most expensive wear item are the engine for the diesel and the battery pack for the etruck. I figure that because electric motors are relatively maintenance/trouble free.  You already knew that... or did you?
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