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Offline CptTrips

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Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« on: April 17, 2023, 02:27:50 PM »

I was reading a very interesting thread over on DCS.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/324002-improved-contact-dot-spotting/

The reason I bring this up is that we suspected a similar effect in AH during a scenario a couple of years ago.

What we realized was that those of us with VR HMD were consistently able to spot dots MUCH further way than our flat screen wingmen.  Even when told exactly where to look they had trouble especially against the terrain, when the dots were pretty apparent in VR.

Basically the approach of this guy's mod is to take display resolution into account on how the dots are rendered.  Basically start rendering dots for low res displays at a closer range to account for the large angular size of the dot at that res.

It's hard enough to get simulation to track real life capability.  One reason I have always been suspicious of no icons.  But there is no reasonable justification for someone to be able to get a distance spotting advantage by lowering their resolution.

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Offline Eagler

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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2023, 02:43:53 PM »
Didn't pilots have different spotting abilities tied to their vision?

As vr makes the game look crummier and in all other sims kills your 6 view, the ability to spot better for some using it is as it should be imo

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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2023, 03:07:02 PM »
As vr makes the game look crummier

It already has tons of other advantages in tracking due to the abilities to easily lean and look around cockpit obstructions.

And it's not just VR specific.  Anyone running a lower res 2-D monitor also gets bigger dots.

You logic is basically that someone should be allowed a hack to make their cockpit semi-transparent because it is offset by making the gauges harder to read.

IMHO, you shouldn't be able to get a spotting range advantage by setting your resolution lower.  That's just silly.  Not in a competitive game. 

That would be like allowing icons for some running AMD processors, but not for others running Intel processors. 





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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2023, 03:56:48 PM »
I didn't say to hack anything..

I guess we all need to lower our internet speed and connection quality to the worse level so those of us with quality internet don't have an advantage over those that have crappy connections

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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2023, 04:07:05 PM »
I didn't say to hack anything..

I guess we all need to lower our internet speed and connection quality to the worse level so those of us with quality internet don't have an advantage over those that have crappy connections

Where possible you should normalize things you can control to keep a competitive game fair.  It's the reason a lot of games will boot a player with too much latency.


Why would you be against that if it can be done?  Because you think VR HMD should be able to spot dots further out?  Are you claiming that difference is a good thing?
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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2023, 06:33:30 PM »
I don't care either way  :cheers:

I do wish vr had my monitor resolution even if it meant reduction in spotting

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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2023, 06:37:21 PM »
All to do about nothing.
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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2023, 07:00:34 PM »
I definitely would give up spotting distance to gain the 2d resolution. But I also wouldn’t lower my resolution on 2d to gain minimal spotting distance, but that is just me

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Re: Make distant dot behavior display resolution dependent
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2023, 08:19:39 PM »
I definitely would give up spotting distance to gain the 2d resolution.

Have you ever flown VR?  It has a lot of advantages already even though lower res. 

But I also wouldn’t lower my resolution on 2d to gain minimal spotting distance, but that is just me

I wouldn't drive a tank into a bugged building to  shoot out of it invisibly, but apparently people do.


 
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