Why No Inactivity Timeout

[guncrasher]

That's a good solution, IMHO. 

It prevents ENY being distorted, but doesn't penalize the player and so the player would not be motivated to try and circumvent.

Players can know that going AFK in the tower is fine and doesn't hurt their team.  AFK Safe-Space.

there's eny. a squad sits in the tower for 10 minutes.  they up at the same time. that's. how HITECH put it years ago.



semp

[mERv]

Shades to spy has gone on since early AW days (which started in 87, Yes, despite the 10-14 yr lapse, I've been playing a very long time). It's nothing new. This obviously went on in real wars too.

I'll sit in the tower and figure out where a decent fight is worth flying to, or if I'll log off, or just grabbing a cam position for Fixed mode for a period of time. I've also gone AFK and forgot I was even still logged on.

I've been kiiled in the tower 3 times since I've been back.

On the biz side of things, in shade accounts, I recklessly assume they are also paying for 2 accounts. It's not a well thought out tactic.

having multiple accounts is OK. Using one to shade however is strictly forbidden.

[mERv]

there's eny. a squad sits in the tower for 10 minutes.  they up at the same time. that's. how HITECH put it years ago.



semp

ENY has nothing to do with planes in the air regardless of what you think he said years ago. It has to do with the # of players logged into the game whether in the air or in tower.

[CptTrips]

there's eny. a squad sits in the tower for 10 minutes.  they up at the same time. that's. how HITECH put it years ago.

How would that be different than the current system when a large squad all logs in at once? 
Or when a large squad all logs out at once?

Treat sitting in the tower like you would logging out. (For ENY purposes.)
Treat leaving the tower like you would logging in. (For ENY purposes.)

Whatever edge cases occur when player go into and come out of the tower is no different that when they log in or out.  So you are not creating a new class of problem.

What you are doing is solving the problem of a bunch of guys sitting in the tower while they go to mall or mow their lawn from janking up ENY.  And since you are not punishing the squatter, there is no incentive for them to circumvent the logic.

A good solution shouldn't be the enemy of a perfect solution.

[guncrasher]

ENY has nothing to do with planes in the air regardless of what you think he said years ago. It has to do with the # of players logged into the game whether in the air or in tower.

I was replying to a member that wants to exclude from eny players in tower.


semp

[Animl-AW]

having multiple accounts is OK. Using one to shade however is strictly forbidden.

Ya I THINK it always has been forbidden, but they do it anyway. Locks are for honest people. >IMO<, I don't think putting a 2 hour cap on it would be unreasonable. In moderation, I just don't see it causing a problem. I think, no matter what ya do to a game, it's going to have that gamer environment around, nature of the beast.

I could be wrong, but "back in the day" Timeouts help take unnecessary pressure off the slower server connections Today it's not so much an issue.  It could kick in when the arenas get full tho.

[mERv]

Ya I THINK it always has been forbidden, but they do it anyway. Locks are for honest people. >IMO<, I don't think putting a 2 hour cap on it would be unreasonable. In moderation, I just don't see it causing a problem. I think, no matter what ya do to a game, it's going to have that gamer environment around, nature of the beast.
I could be wrong, but "back in the day" Timeouts help take unnecessary pressure off the slower server connections Today it's not so much an issue.  It could kick in when the arenas get full tho.

with the emphasis on "think" unfortunately my dear friend you are sadly mistaken. Dozens and dozens of players have ran multiple accounts over the years. Many have used them for shade cheating. I never will. I have spoke to Dale on the subject and am in the clear. Tunes at one point had 6 accounts and would use them all on NOE smash and grabs back in the day. 

This is the reason the HQ wars took place. The 49ers became obsessed with destroying enemy HQs in gv's from long distance without flashing it to the extent that they did because of shade cheaters. Nothing was done about it and so they broke the game.

Some of the great fighter pilots back in the day would run multiple accounts simply to be able to fight who they were competing against for fighter and overall rank so as to not affect their score if they were shot down. Hunt the best players and lower their score basically. My former CO SFox left the game over this after presenting evidence of its occurring and nothing being done about it. If I'm not mistaken that was Skyrrs final straw too which is why he exposed the shady stuff going on in the game by doing it himself and putting it on YouTube as to mock HTC about it.

To simply deny a paying customer the opportunity to subscribe to multiple accounts is bad for business. At the end of the day this is a business 

I just chose to use my accounts for logistical purposes in winning the war. 2 for 1 on my time investment in a game that requires perfection is well worth 30 a month. It can become a nightmare to manage when there is a lot of red in the sky let me tell you but I manage.

[icepac]

LOL.....you guys lobbied for most of the changes that made this sim unplayable.   

All in the name of instant action within a phone booth.

[mERv]

LOL.....you guys lobbied for most of the changes that made this sim unplayable.   

All in the name of instant action within a phone booth.

that's exactly right! 

And a lot of the people who did walked away afterwords....

[Animl-AW]

with the emphasis on "think" unfortunately my dear friend you are sadly mistaken. Dozens and dozens of players have ran multiple accounts over the years. Many have used them for shade cheating. I never will. I have spoke to Dale on the subject and am in the clear. Tunes at one point had 6 accounts and would use them all on NOE smash and grabs back in the day. 

This is the reason the HQ wars took place. The 49ers became obsessed with destroying enemy HQs in gv's from long distance without flashing it to the extent that they did because of shade cheaters. Nothing was done about it and so they broke the game.

Some of the great fighter pilots back in the day would run multiple accounts simply to be able to fight who they were competing against for fighter and overall rank so as to not affect their score if they were shot down. Hunt the best players and lower their score basically. My former CO SFox left the game over this after presenting evidence of its occurring and nothing being done about it. If I'm not mistaken that was Skyrrs final straw too which is why he exposed the shady stuff going on in the game by doing it himself and putting it on YouTube as to mock HTC about it.

To simply deny a paying customer the opportunity to subscribe to multiple accounts is bad for business. At the end of the day this is a business 

I just chose to use my accounts for logistical purposes in winning the war. 2 for 1 on my time investment in a game that requires perfection is well worth 30 a month. It can become a nightmare to manage when there is a lot of red in the sky let me tell you but I manage.

I was just referring to sitting in the tower. I just play when I can. I’m detached and u aware of common antics of some, and most bugs. Not knowing is a fun place for me to be. When i was GS for AW I did a lot of head hunting for these things. I think there are other things done in wide open that are damaging to the game. Just talking about things encourages some to try. What they otherwise did not think of.

But thats just me. <shrug>

I just try to mind my own biz and bite fingers that stick in my peaceful pie.

[Dadtallica]

LOL.....you guys lobbied for most of the changes that made this sim unplayable.   

All in the name of instant action within a phone booth.

What changes were they?

[Tumor]

If I'm not mistaken that was Skyrrs final straw too

LOL