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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2023, 03:10:27 PM »
So AI actually is artificial. As for its reply to the second question, it stated the same thing said about the fear mongers. Cherry picking is a passion for some and the only way to push their agenda. Should the money stop coming in, they will find something else to banter about.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2023, 03:18:04 PM »
Some of you are really just plain stupid.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2023, 03:35:55 PM »
Exxon disputed climate findings for years. Its scientists knew better.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/#:~:text=The%20Harvard%20team%20discovered%20that,emissions%20over%20the%20coming%20decades.

In “Assessing ExxonMobil’s Global Warming Projections,” researchers from Harvard and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research show for the first time the accuracy of previously unreported forecasts created by company scientists from 1977 through 2003. The Harvard team discovered that Exxon researchers created a series of remarkably reliable models and analyses projecting global warming from carbon dioxide emissions over the coming decades. Specifically, Exxon projected that fossil fuel emissions would lead to 0.20 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade, with a margin of error of 0.04 degrees — a trend that has been proven largely accurate.

“This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company’s climate projections, the first time we’ve been able to put a number on what they knew,” said Geoffrey Supran, lead author and former research fellow in the History of Science at Harvard. “What we found is that between 1977 and 2003, excellent scientists within Exxon modeled and predicted global warming with, frankly, shocking skill and accuracy only for the company to then spend the next couple of decades denying that very climate science.”


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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2023, 04:11:12 PM »
Green energy is green because of the $$$$$$$$ it makes no other reason

Mean scary weather....days are numbered lol

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2023, 05:48:07 PM »
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2023, 05:49:55 PM »
Reality is only biased for trolls and autocrats.  They need you to see something that is not there.  That possibly disagrees with their agenda or beliefs.

MMGW mandates have supported more agendas over the last 50 years than anything else I can think of.   
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2023, 06:16:20 PM »
The climate changes. It has since the planet was formed. It did long before man walked on the planet.

The Ice Age coming and going was a greater change than we've seen in 200 plus years of "man's industrial actions" supposedly causing" climate change.

Anyone remember reading about how cold it was in the thirties and forties? But after the heat wave and drought just a few years earlier?

In the sixties and seventies, the fear was literally a coming ice age. Less than sixty years ago.

The result? Higher taxes, and more regulations.

In the eighties, it was acid rain. Why? Catalytic converters.

The result? More taxes, more regulations, more emissions equipment.

In the nineties, it became global warming.

The result? More taxes, more regulations.

Then every few years since, "life on the planet will be extinct in 12 years!" or, "life will be extinct in 20 years!", or "we only have less than a dozen years to save the planet!"

The result? More taxes, more regulations.

Does anyone see a pattern there?

It is amusing the hubris of these people, thinking that they can tax people and write regulations, and change the climate on the planet. They're hilarious.

Ever notice "the seas are rising", but Obama built a house in Martha's Vineyard and a house on the beach in Hawaii? Ever seen Al Gore Jr's massive house in Nashville? And his massive fleet of huge SUV's? Ever seen the dozens of private jets and fleets of limousines and SUV's at a "save the planet climate change" conference?

People are being played. Like a cheap fiddle.

The climate changes. It always has. It always will. The hubris that makes "humans" think that they can control it is utterly hilarious. So is the hypocrisy among those making those claims.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2023, 06:31:45 PM »
Capt. it is not that the climate changes but at which rate the +climate changes. Your doom and gloom scenarios mentioned did not happen because stuff was done to stop, or ar least slow down, the scenarios.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2023, 07:01:26 PM »
Capt. it is not that the climate changes but at which rate the +climate changes. Your doom and gloom scenarios mentioned did not happen because stuff was done to stop, or ar least slow down, the scenarios.

Serious question. What was done in the world during the 60s and 70s about the impending ice age that was predicted to come that was going to doom the planet? What stuff was done to prevent the possible global ice age
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2023, 07:30:08 PM »
Capt. it is not that the climate changes but at which rate the +climate changes. Your doom and gloom scenarios mentioned did not happen because stuff was done to stop, or ar least slow down, the scenarios.

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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2023, 07:32:03 PM »
There was no scientific consensus in the 60 and 70s that the Earth was cooling and another Ice Age was imminent.  What you remember are the sensational media stories of the time.



https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

We now know that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – caused localised cooling closest to the areas where most of it originated. Smogs constitute a deadly health hazard and governments acted quickly to clean up that type of pollution: highly visible (unlike CO2), it was hard to ignore. Once largely removed, its effects no longer influenced Northern Hemisphere temperatures, that have steadily climbed since around 1970.

In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become clear that the cooling trend was indeed localised – it was most pronounced in northern land areas. Other places around the world revealed a different story. Furthermore, at the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a significantly greater number - approximately six times more - published papers indicating the opposite - that we were warming. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gases that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would exert a much stronger influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.



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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2023, 07:36:11 PM »
Serious question. What was done in the world during the 60s and 70s about the impending ice age that was predicted to come that was going to doom the planet? What stuff was done to prevent the possible global ice age

Also, what was done during the 70's to save Florida's beaches which we were told would be gone in 20 years?  It's one lie or "false prediction" after another with these political activists.  Notice I didn't say environmental activists, as they're only the useful idiots in all of this.   
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2023, 09:45:57 PM »
There was no scientific consensus in the 60 and 70s that the Earth was cooling and another Ice Age was imminent.  What you remember are the sensational media stories of the time.

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https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

We now know that the smog that climatologists call ‘aerosols’ – emitted by human activities into the atmosphere – caused localised cooling closest to the areas where most of it originated. Smogs constitute a deadly health hazard and governments acted quickly to clean up that type of pollution: highly visible (unlike CO2), it was hard to ignore. Once largely removed, its effects no longer influenced Northern Hemisphere temperatures, that have steadily climbed since around 1970.

In fact, as temperature recording has improved in coverage, it’s become clear that the cooling trend was indeed localised – it was most pronounced in northern land areas. Other places around the world revealed a different story. Furthermore, at the same time as some scientists were suggesting we might be facing another ice age, a significantly greater number - approximately six times more - published papers indicating the opposite - that we were warming. Their papers showed that the growing amount of greenhouse gases that humans were putting into the atmosphere would cause much greater warming – warming that would exert a much stronger influence on global temperature than any possible natural or human-caused cooling effects.


So according to your quote here. It bascially proved my point that smog, or pollution, caused cooling in localized areas, as I mentioned a few post back.... athannnkyouuuu!

Greenhouse gasses are fundamental building blocks to life. Water vapor, nitrous oxide, C02, ect are all basic compounds that sustain life. These compounds among others actually prevent the sun from frying the earth because they cannot escape the atmosphere. Think about why you would need a "greenhouse" in fhe first place, to prevent your plants from drying out. The compounds stored in greenhouses nourish the plants and prevent them from frying and drying out. The earth is way more complex than a greenhouse though because heat rises and eventually enters a cold atmosphere that releases and breaks down the compounds and creates clouds and rain. You also have wind which disperses compounds. Its why you don't see anymore effects aby where from the train explosion a few months ago. The earth naturally breaks these gasses down, or rains them all over the crops. Yippie! But this isn't causing warming.

Again, look at a desert. It has less greenhouse gases than anywhere else on earth. It has less pollution than anywhere on earth. Less cars, less factories, and less all of that stuff and yet they are the hottest climates on the planet. Think about why. No water, No clouds, nothing for the sun to bounce off of. When you look at places that are getting extremely hot. They have very limited humidity and water vapor in the atmosphere.

The thing I see unfortunately is. They want global warming to happen so badly, because then they can say "see told you so". But the irony is, as noted above in your own quote. If we wanted to cool the atmosphere and global climate overall as they say, then every city should just create more smog.  :D
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2023, 10:38:24 PM »
The fact is that global warming is not harming anybody. It's been beneficial. That's the big lie. That global warming is causing drastic, life-threatening events. None of it's true.

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