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Offline RUSH1

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Re: Invasion
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2024, 10:49:32 PM »
Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you quote to me the federal statute that allows any person, organization, committee etc. to close the border. Would that be all borders?? Or just the border with Mexico? How about vacationers flying in from Mexico? No international flights land? No passenger ships? No freighters?

No matter what is claimed, POTUS does not make law (yet- God help us if the people ever decide he can).

But I'm tired and going to bed. Goodnight.

"Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you" ...

acknowledge that we're (POTUS is) not enforcing existing law at our  southern border?   
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« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2024, 11:16:55 PM »
What about that there party of smaller government and less spending who just had 130 of their members vote for an almost 1.5 dollar spending bill of money that we don't have, that will cause more inflation, maybe hyperinflation, and could possibly bankrupt the country.

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Re: Invasion
« Reply #92 on: March 23, 2024, 02:38:06 AM »
"Getting very tired of this debate but for the sake of trying to maintain some level of civility, why don't you" ...

acknowledge that we're (POTUS is) not enforcing existing law at our  southern border?

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« Reply #93 on: March 23, 2024, 08:04:16 AM »
There would not be a crisis at the border today, according to the current admin, if Texas had not started bussing those entering the country illegally to the sanctuary cities. Those cities got a small taste and started wailing and gnashing their teeth. If the border were sealed tight today there would still be busses rolling for a long time.
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« Reply #94 on: March 23, 2024, 08:07:19 AM »
Well security has become political so this will be locked..

Bye bye America, glad I am 65 years into this one..the toejamshow has only just begun

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« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2024, 08:54:29 AM »
Article 4 Section 4
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence."

Article II, Section 3,
... he (the president) shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,

Its clear this was ignored when cities were being burnt to the ground in "peaceful protests"

And you would know if a real insurrection happened. The capital building visit was no such thing. By the standards in use today, that was nothing more then a peaceful protest. But double standards are employed so only one side can claim peaceful protests, while the other side the exact same thing is called an insurrection.
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« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2024, 09:24:25 AM »


https://youtu.be/LGJvUYOjWy0?si=eZDKWsuzt0gPF3d5

Just the beginning of the latest increase of serious crimes

Glad the southern states still have some common sense that the northern and western states seem to have lost..

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« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2024, 10:12:45 AM »
So it's a good idea to do nothing until after Jan 20, 2025. Now I understand! :rolleyes:

The current president has had the authority to close the border all along. He knows it because his 2 predecessors already used it in their terms including when president dementia was the VP. He does not need an additional law to close the border. Making a bad law legalizing illegal aliens is the silly option he wants. Pity you can't see past the title of the stupidity he wants made into law.
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Re: Invasion
« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2024, 10:28:50 AM »


Like they are trying to bring about the downfall of the nation purposely

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« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2024, 10:55:20 AM »
How can they pass a background check?

There are some states which do not require this approval when a gun is sold by an individual: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

But some are pressing to make this mandatory for all.
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« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2024, 11:11:49 AM »
At the same time taking gun rights away from law abiding US citizens so they are not allowed to protect themselves from the illegals with the guns the same people allow them to have
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« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2024, 12:11:05 PM »
At the same time taking gun rights away from law abiding US citizens so they are not allowed to protect themselves from the illegals with the guns the same people allow them to have


which law takes away our gun rights.


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« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2024, 01:45:32 PM »

which law takes away our gun rights.


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There are 28,000 local, state, and federal firearms laws. All of them restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. Yet crime is every bit as rampant as it was in 1934 when the NFA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was when the GCA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was in 1986, and 1994. Restricting the rights of those who abide by the laws neither prevents crime nor protects those that obey the law. Never has. Never will. The brilliant men who founded the nation knew that.

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« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2024, 01:54:22 PM »
There are 28,000 local, state, and federal firearms laws. All of them restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. Yet crime is every bit as rampant as it was in 1934 when the NFA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was when the GCA violated the Constitution, and as rampant as it was in 1986, and 1994. Restricting the rights of those who abide by the laws neither prevents crime nor protects those that obey the law. Never has. Never will. The brilliant men who founded the nation knew that.

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all you had to say is I don't know. give me specifics


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« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2024, 02:02:38 PM »

all you had to say is I don't know. give me specifics


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Here's one of many, The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. The current admin is doing it's best to reenact that unconstitutional law.
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