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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2024, 08:41:53 AM »
How easy a target is an air refueler?

Do they usually have an escort?

Seems like they would be a major strategic target in a real conflict


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A tanker is basically a sitting duck, an easy target.

A tanker, AWACS, and the like, are considered “high value” assets in a combat situation.  As such, they are typically back behind the active conflict and depending the scenario, may have some sort of escort.  The AWACS especially because it’s the long range eyes & ears, and would be an important first objective to eliminate. 





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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2024, 09:43:19 AM »
Pretty fragile too. I rubbed one with my F-14 once and they all hit the silk.  :D
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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2024, 09:55:38 AM »
Pretty fragile too. I rubbed one with my F-14 once and they all hit the silk.  :D

Yeah, pretty much a big beer can full O gas. 



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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2024, 12:00:33 PM »
Noisy buggers too. 3 years at Grissom in early 80's. Standing outside the PAR site a loaded tanker would rattle yer teeth on takeoff.
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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2024, 10:08:29 PM »
Noisy buggers too. 3 years at Grissom in early 80's. Standing outside the PAR site a loaded tanker would rattle yer teeth on takeoff.

They had those skinny engines that had that ear splitting scream back then.  Pretty sure that's what cause my slight hearing loss.
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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2024, 02:42:20 PM »
A tanker is basically a sitting duck, an easy target.

A tanker, AWACS, and the like, are considered “high value” assets in a combat situation.  As such, they are typically back behind the active conflict and depending the scenario, may have some sort of escort.  The AWACS especially because it’s the long range eyes & ears, and would be an important first objective to eliminate.

Puma sir what was your squadron? I want to see if there's a livery for it.
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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2024, 03:21:04 PM »
Puma sir what was your squadron? I want to see if there's a livery for it.

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2024, 09:45:34 PM »
36th TFS.  70th TFS.


...but...but...what about the 106...?

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2024, 09:50:03 PM »

...but...but...what about the 106...?

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2024, 11:30:09 AM »
There is a free F-106 done by VSN. VSN does pretty good work imo and this one looks pretty good. Of course I have no idea how realistic. It does carry the Genie.

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2024, 11:57:42 AM »
There is a free F-106 done by VSN. VSN does pretty good work imo and this one looks pretty good. Of course I have no idea how realistic. It does carry the Genie.


I for one would not want to fly around in a plane carrying a live Genie. Too much could go wrong with that lol.

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2024, 12:04:22 PM »
I for one would not want to fly around in a plane carrying a live Genie. Too much could go wrong with that lol.

Like what?



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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2024, 12:14:40 PM »
Like what?
I'm sure your imagination can come up with something that could go wrong with an unguided rocket with a 6 mile range and a nuclear warhead.

Kinda like that nuke that got dropped off North Carolina that had like 6 fail safes and all but one failed.

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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2024, 12:53:21 PM »
I'm sure your imagination can come up with something that could go wrong with an unguided rocket with a 6 mile range and a nuclear warhead.

Kinda like that nuke that got dropped off North Carolina that had like 6 fail safes and all but one failed.

Well, as a mission ready F-106 pilot in the day, and qualified via the Nuclear Surety Program, I’ll take exception to your statement.  There were endless, stringent fail safes, involved before even taking off with the Genie.  It was carried internally.  Therefore, it couldn’t “fall off” the aircraft.  We were dead serious about carrying and employing the “Great White Hope” against Russian bomber formations coming over the polar cap to bomb our cities and bases (with our families there).  We were the last line of defense.

If I remember correctly, the North Carolina incident involved a B-52 and tanker midair, in flight breakup, and the B-52’s internally carried nuke(s) falling out of the wreckage.  I’m sure someone will quickly chime in the the particulars here. 

Point being, the comparison is apples to lug nuts with a dose of imagination thrown in.  :salute
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Re: Puma44 Please Help This F4 Manual is Overloading My Brain
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2024, 12:54:43 PM »
No ginormous blast or mushroom cloud in DCS but the damage radius is yuge. You have to get a radar lock before firing it.
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