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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #165 on: July 11, 2024, 12:40:32 AM »
I Would love to, and if I won the lottery I would, but I need to save the money for this ...

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-apache-64-collective-grip.html

and this ....

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-rotor-tcs-plus-base-upgraded.html

It must be nice to be rich.   And right-handed.

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #166 on: July 11, 2024, 12:47:00 AM »

I guess the question is, does anyone have a dart gun? 

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #167 on: July 11, 2024, 01:03:52 AM »
It must be nice to be rich.   And right-handed.

I've been saving up for a bit due to my wife's contract negotiations with her company so We wanted to have around 4 to 6 months of expenses saved up and that is a lot here ... 130K a year here is like 52K everywhere else. But if all goes well I'm gunna go through an upgrade path ....

Chair
Collective
VR (replace valve index looking at Pimax Chrystal Super with light house plate)
Video Card (Should be at 5080ti by then)
MB/CPU/Mem........

Edit: Oh ya BTW the Virpil collective if I'm not mistaken can be reversed and right side mounted .... and it takes joystick grips ... I was going to go with a left handed Alpha or Alpha prime until the Apache Grip came out.
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #168 on: July 11, 2024, 01:14:21 AM »

>>> WE <<< a plural word, are sick to death of hearing more about DCS than AH on AH forums


Why do you then start topic with DCS in your opening post, if all of your personalities do not want to hear about it?


       

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #169 on: July 11, 2024, 06:18:48 AM »
Where exactly do you find the page for the mods at? Looking for the blackhawk one and cant quite find it
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #170 on: July 11, 2024, 07:06:34 AM »
Where exactly do you find the page for the mods at? Looking for the blackhawk one and cant quite find it

Yeah that is an annoying DCS thing. 
Most smaller stuff is usually under:
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/
But they have a size limit.  SO most of the aircraft mods are too big and the downloads are hosted offsite.
That can be annoying because sometimes they get moved several times and link become dead.

Try this:
https://github.com/Kinkkujuustovoileipa/uh-60l/releases/tag/1.2

First post in this thread should have the link for the A-4:
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/207102-community-a-4e-c/

And if you like the taste of the BLackhawk, here is a link to a free (OH-6 mod).  This one is a LOT twitchier than the Blackhawk of course.  And the FM is still being worked on by the mod'er.   But it can be a fun handful to play with:
https://github.com/tobi-be/DCS-OH-6A

For all Helo, and anything really, it is really important to get you control curves dialed in.
I usually start with a 15 curve on my pitch and roll and yaw.
I usually leave the throttle\collective linear.

I've been experimenting lately with leaving response linear, but changing the Y-Saturation to 80%.  Haven't decided if I like that better on not yet. 

A lot of that is personal preference on feel and what type of controls you have.  Some people use full length 2ft floor mounted sticks and need a WHOLE lot less tuning or curves than a short shank desktop stick.  Find what works for you. 

Iron can prolly also give you a list of good mods.  And he has some program to easily add and remove them.  You should ping him too.

Feel free to DM if you need help.   :aok

[Edit: sorry the first blackhawk I had was stale ver 1.0.  I think this is the latest and I updated above:  https://github.com/Kinkkujuustovoileipa/uh-60l/releases/tag/1.2 )


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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #171 on: July 11, 2024, 08:15:20 AM »
OvGME is a free app made to move mods in and out of the game. Nothing you can't do manually but makes it easy to see what mods you have enabled and easy to turn on and off. I made a few videos on how to use it.

Non core mods. These are by far the most common

https://youtu.be/_STNLtzyWDE

https://youtu.be/GTWdlGOyR7M

Core mods, rare.

https://youtu.be/T_7rTA0OwZY

Specifically for the OH-6

https://youtu.be/szuppmcrmko

I believe there are WWII free mods but I've never used them.
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #172 on: July 11, 2024, 08:20:07 AM »
Where exactly do you find the page for the mods at? Looking for the blackhawk one and cant quite find it

And if you need a little help getting the a handle on the helos, DM Iron or me. 

Also, Iron's brother is a former Apache-A pilot and is great at instruction.  I bet Iron could set up his private server and we could get on there  to do some Zero-to-Hero training to get you up to speed quick. 

Helos is a whole different kind of flying than fixed-wing.  New skills and challenges.
Casmo has great training vids. https://www.youtube.com/@CasmoTV/videos
A lot may be Apache specific, but even those have a lot of basic helo training that transfers over to anything.



Bradmick has some good training on basic flight:
https://www.youtube.com/@bradmicksflightrelatedthings/videos


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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #173 on: July 11, 2024, 08:38:36 AM »
If there is a central location with links to all mods downloads I don't know where it is. I google for a mod which sometimes leads me to a youtube video with instructions. Sometimes to a download site. Some download sites can be tough to navigate. There is a specific folder structure in which all mods must be installed but not all downloads follow that pattern and so you may have to create folders and rearrange the extracted download. I cover that in my vids. Not all mods are created equal. Some are fully stand alone, in that no purchased mods are required. Some are built on mods you have to buy. Some are greatly detailed. Some look good on the outside but may use a different planes interior completely.

Oh, some mods will crash DCS. One reason I use OvGME, to make it easy to see what's installed. YMMV.
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #174 on: July 11, 2024, 09:04:09 AM »

This thread was NOT a troll, it was a mistake and both me and Xanax have spoken. We shouldn't have to worry about mistakes like this, but we do because you are more than willing to beat us to death with DCS, every opportunity you get, no matter how tiny, no matter how ridiculous, you jump on with eager frothing mouth. You think it's just me? read around and get back to me on that.

Talking about others sims is just fine, a daily diet of this game sucks, HT sucks and DCS is great, is vomit worthy. Maybe this game sucks because of people like you putting effort into it.

Mayhem can have his opinion,...it's not correct. Period. The mistake was mentioning IL-2 and DCS in single sentences. I was trying to show younger players where we came from and what we over-looked because the concept was that badars. Again, turned into a cesspool of BS. If that's what Mayhem thinks of me, a cheap cheesy troll, then I can do without it. I have no room for nonsense. I can 86 negative friends like lightning strikes,  anything to regain peace, however ridiculous.

Don't lump me into this, animl. I read what I want and post what I want. It's super easy and should be SOP for any mature, intelligent adult.
I spoke to none of this and don't appreciate the attempt to Shanghai me into your myopic, Quixotic battles. Please don't do it again, thanks.

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #175 on: July 11, 2024, 09:09:08 AM »
It must be nice to be rich.   And right-handed.

I dunno about the rich part. Better to be content I think. As to handedness, better to be mixed handed.  :D
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #176 on: July 11, 2024, 10:06:49 AM »
So what makes a flight sim 3D Animl? Per my previous question in line with your thread subject.
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #177 on: July 11, 2024, 10:35:04 AM »
So what makes a flight sim 3D Animl? Per my previous question in line with your thread subject.


I was assuming he was referring to the cockpit view going from flat, 2-d bitmap overlay, vs true 3D modeled cockpit geometry.

But you never know with Animl.   ;)

The 3D modeled cockpit would of course be a prerequisite for VR.

One of the big snags with Cliffs of Dover adding VR support was a lot of the cockpit was being faked with 2-D graphics for performance.  That of course was unworkable in VR.  That's why the original VorpX work-arounds really were not viable.  The outside would translate to VR fine, but a lot of the cockpit just didn't work right in VR and had to be rebuilt from scratch as a 3D model.



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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #178 on: July 11, 2024, 10:43:09 AM »
I assume the same, 3D cockpit. It can be 3D without support for VR or 3D glasses though. No depth of field illusion, just a different perspective.

You can even view "3D" from a flat screen without VR or glasses but only works from a specific viewing angle.
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #179 on: July 11, 2024, 10:43:51 AM »
Where exactly do you find the page for the mods at? Looking for the blackhawk one and cant quite find it

BTW, a patch just dropped.

In the DCS install folder (not saved games) go to the bin and run dcs_updater.exe. 

Or if you are on Steam, it updates automagically.

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