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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #150 on: July 09, 2024, 08:20:34 AM »
Until DCS start operating an official server with higher number caps leaving arena setup to the community is a recipe for trouble.   Can you imagine what AH would look like today if HT would attempt to follow every wish and whim of all of us crazy people.   

On the other hand, it can also lead to innovation.

Have you looked at Enigma's Cold War?  That was a group of players taking a server in a new direction that none of the other servers had taken it to before.  They came up with a new server gameplay style that proved quite popular.  Different than other servers had tried and different than ED had probably envisioned.  They had to do a lot of scripting to do it, but it was roundly considered a huge success.  They have their own server and a lot of scripting talent and a unique idea and they just made it happen.

The problem is with a monolithic server, it can only innovate are the rate the company wants to and when the company is done innovating, that's it.  You're locked into the stale, last vision they happened to have had a decade ago and no one can do anything about it because no one can setup anything more than a token mini-server with trivial number of limited slots.

DCS makes MANY mistakes, but I think it is great anyone can put up a server and test their ideas.  That flexibility and invitation to innovation was a great approach.  Most will fail, a tiny fraction with break ground and advance the sim. 

I do think, like Battlefield, there ought to be a number of canonical company servers running a standard design, but beyond that, give your players a set of tools and let them try stuff and experiment with private servers too.  Often, players will come up with unique ideas they can try and it is nice they have the freedom to rise above the "Oh that will never work...oh we already thought of that 20 years ago and rejected it and will never reconsider again...no one will like that....impossible that can't be done....etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.e tc.etc.etc.  Enigma and his crew just got a box and a load of scripters that had a common vision and went off and made what no one else was doing and made it a success.

I believe in a market place of ideas.  Let anything be tried by any one who has an idea and is willing to spend hundreds of man-hours working on it and can find the hardware and bandwidth to run a box on.

The chaotic, wide range of server styles out in DCS is actually a beautiful thing to me.

It is an interesting point and one I have even heard HT make.  At some point, does a server really need 500 players?  The first thing a server designer does is start looking for ways to spread out the fight so that not too many players clog up one area simultaneously.  There is some critical mass you need, but really it is more is the map and strat model sized appropriately for the population size.  3 sides is a great design to spread out fights over more frontage.  If you are needing to do that.  It can also increase the odds of being too sparse if the map size is out of whack with the number of players.

I had made the point in Battlefield 4, with a well designed map, a 64 player server "feels"  like the level of action I remember from a 300-400 sized AH population.  But things need to be balanced properly.  If he map was too small its a cluster-fart.  If the map or distance to targets too large, then its an empty wasteland which where you have way too much time wasted trying to find and get to a fight and too long a transit time compared to bang-bang time to keep the fun cycle turning.

So maybe the old style, pile a bunch of players into one monolithic server that can't be innovated beyond what the company's initial vision was, is an archaic design.  Maybe a marketplace of different 80 player server designs trying different approaches is a better design.  Maybe there are a few company servers that can support 200 players.  Maybe occasionally players will come up with something new that the company decides to adopt themselves and incorporate into the official servers once it had been proved out in the private servers. 

Just musing on a bunch of coffee. ;)
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #151 on: July 09, 2024, 08:25:15 AM »
Whata dcs puddle of vomit this has turned into.

Do I need to point out to you, you are the OP of this thread?

Do I need to point out to you, you were first to mention DCS in the first post of this thread, thus opening that topic for discussion?

Do I need to point out to you, you were first to post a non-AH video in first message of this thread?

No, that is clear for all to see.  All they have to do is scroll up. 

Thanks for starting such an interesting topic. Hope your hang-over gets better.




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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #152 on: July 09, 2024, 08:56:29 AM »
from my limited experience of DCS (haven't had time to play anything)

If you've been out a while and hadn't heard about the CWS, you should check it out when you get time.

They tried something new.  It was a success.


They took what they had learned, and rewrote it from scratch again, and made it better.


Amazing what you can do with the scripting. They really demonstrated how much flexibility you really have.  All you need is a metric ton of elbow-grease. ;)

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #153 on: July 09, 2024, 01:25:56 PM »
So a Troll, made a Troll Post, and then got their panties in a bunch when people jumped on the Troll thread, and Trolled the Troller back.

Jez! I need down riggers for this one!

https://cannon.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/learn/downrigger-basics

Haven't had to go this deep since going for kokanee salmon at New Melones Res.

Any one know a good brand of Downriggers that is as good as or better then Cannons (They are kind of expensive)?

Are Penn Reels still the best reel for Trolling or is Okuma better/same?

https://www.pennfishing.com/collections/conventional-reels
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #154 on: July 09, 2024, 01:46:26 PM »
So a Troll, made a Troll Post, and then got their panties in a bunch when people jumped on the troll thread, and trolled the Troller back.

That boy can't walk across the barnyard without stepping on at least three rakes.  ;)

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #155 on: July 09, 2024, 02:13:48 PM »
This whole thread reminds me of this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DG-81m8Coo

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #156 on: July 09, 2024, 02:17:20 PM »
This whole thread reminds me of this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DG-81m8Coo

I love coming to the BBS, you guys deliver.


We're running a special this week...
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #157 on: July 10, 2024, 10:39:23 PM »
So a Troll, made a Troll Post, and then got their panties in a bunch when people jumped on the Troll thread, and Trolled the Troller back.

Jez! I need down riggers for this one!

https://cannon.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/learn/downrigger-basics

Haven't had to go this deep since going for kokanee salmon at New Melones Res.

Any one know a good brand of Downriggers that is as good as or better then Cannons (They are kind of expensive)?

Are Penn Reels still the best reel for Trolling or is Okuma better/same?

https://www.pennfishing.com/collections/conventional-reels

This doesn't slide, this is 100% wrong. >>> WE <<< a plural word, are sick to death of hearing more about DCS than AH on AH forums,... be as mad at me as you want. Its NOT what you think. Every single post that's about ANY sim gets followed by pages and pages of DCS from the class clown Trips.  And I'm about to dig into that butt like wild fire. No sir, with all due respect you are wrong.

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #158 on: July 10, 2024, 11:10:00 PM »
And I'm about to dig into that butt like wild fire.

We've heard those rumors about you.



Not my cup of tea, but I'm not judging you.

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #159 on: July 10, 2024, 11:28:12 PM »


Would it help if I said i actually liked the "Masters of the AI" video?

All those AI wingman really brought the whole thing to life!

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #160 on: July 11, 2024, 12:00:12 AM »
Damn I'm so divided! I'm really stuck between

the Monster tech Flight Chair – MFC-5 Night Falcon

https://www.mtsim.com/product/flight-chair-mfc-5-night-falcon/

and

Flight Chair – MFC-8 Storm Sheep

https://www.mtsim.com/product/flight-chair-mfc-8-storm-sheep/

I like the toughness of the Cordura 1000D mil-spec (black) fabric.

But the other one even though there is pleather involved ... it has real curly lambskin.

I'm so gunna pull the trigger on one of these soon.

But which one?!?!?!
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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #161 on: July 11, 2024, 12:08:14 AM »
That boy can't walk across the barnyard without stepping on at least three rakes.  ;)

Thwak!
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YOU and your clan of mindless misfits are responsible for severe damage done to this sim, the players, contributers and HT himself. You can find any way you want to talk your way around it, but everyone here with a working brain knows you are a vexation to the game, the bbs, the players and HTC. The sick part about it is you laugh in everyone's face and get away with it. You can talk your crap until the world goes flat but you sir are toxic poison. You are ignored more than any other player here because of your endless dramas to turn people off from the game OR against me,.. and again you laugh about it. Don't waste your/OUR time trying to talk your way out of the corner you painted yourself into to.

You think it's me all alone in what I think,.. you are 110% WRONG and KNOW it. I'm just the loudest because I loathe people like you with passion. You hate your life so much you want others to hate theirs. You want to destroy their love for the game you haven't played in 9 yrs. You hate that they enjoy themselves in this game, it eats you alive whole.

No matter what is posted, anything about any sim is STUCK with your endless spewing and pages of DCS and insulting drama like a 15 yr old girl and your 5th grade excuses. You ARE your sig line. Read up the thread, anyone with any working brain can see it's not just me.

You are a victim of yourself and nothing else. The sad part is you laugh about it like a sociopath who hides safely behind a PC would. All you care about is what you want,. that's what narcissist do.. blame everyone else for your own actions, you project yourself onto me for cover. You don't want one single person to listen to me because I hinder your ploy of destruction. If you had a psychological evaluation you would prolly be determined as a personality disorder.

After losing my wife and son you called me a sexual predator, which is what took my son from me, and you laughed about it, you still laugh about it. And you pick and pick at me after all that. If I were not a strong person, what you do KNOWINGLY to that person is mutation for the joy of being a sociopath. You are rotten to your very core and damn proud of it and you think that makes you a bad ars,... I eat bark for breakfast, the last thing you are is what you think you are. I've been down roads you wouldn't last 5 minutes on. I sneeze weakness like you.

Just stop it, we all witnessed your constant attacks on me, the game, HT and endless DCS advertising. Shocking only to you, we're not brain dead. There is not one thing innocent about you. You are a calculator, life is all about you, "only you can save us" from this"dead game". however, the 120 players per night might have a different opinion.

You crossed every single white line a human can cross with me, by conscience choice to do so for laughs. You eat your own feet.

There is a reason you stated "I hate people...", and it's not the people, it's the response your actions generate from them. Narcissist are always victims.

I'm a good guy, who has gone through more than your weak butt could ever live through without one in the chamber. I'm a nice giving person, I feel for anyone who has gone through ANY hardship, I help many put a smile on their face, because i will ever have one. so if I treat you like an ahole, YOU need to ask YOURSELF why.

If you wish to keep toying with me, then don't cry like a child you do act like when it bites back. Don't play innocent victim with me.

I don't mind going down to child level with a child, it's normal goo goo gaa gaa human nature,.... it is extremely disenchanting to be forced to go down to child level with 60-70 yr old grown adult, which is where every convo with you takes me. I need an acid bath just to get it off me.

This thread was NOT a troll, it was a mistake and both me and Xanax have spoken. We shouldn't have to worry about mistakes like this, but we do because you are more than willing to beat us to death with DCS, every opportunity you get, no matter how tiny, no matter how ridiculous, you jump on with eager frothing mouth. You think it's just me? read around and get back to me on that.

Talking about others sims is just fine, a daily diet of this game sucks, HT sucks and DCS is great, is vomit worthy. Maybe this game sucks because of people like you putting effort into it.

Mayhem can have his opinion,...it's not correct. Period. The mistake was mentioning IL-2 and DCS in single sentences. I was trying to show younger players where we came from and what we over-looked because the concept was that badars. Again, turned into a cesspool of BS. If that's what Mayhem thinks of me, a cheap cheesy troll, then I can do without it. I have no room for nonsense. I can 86 negative friends like lightning strikes,  anything to regain peace, however ridiculous.

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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #162 on: July 11, 2024, 12:08:52 AM »
Damn I'm so divided! I'm really stuck between

What climate you in?

How would that sheep skin work for you in summer?

You better get both so you can swap them out seasonally.


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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #163 on: July 11, 2024, 12:13:39 AM »
YOU and your clan of mindless misfits are responsible for severe damage done to this sim, the players, contributers and HT himself.

Why Animl, what an ugly thing to say.

Are we cross?  Does this mean we aren't friends anymore? 

You know, Animl, If I thought you were not my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.



Are you working on anymore AI videos?



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Re: WWII MP Flight Sim from 2D to 3D - Current
« Reply #164 on: July 11, 2024, 12:35:58 AM »
What climate you in?

South West, cold but not freezing in winter, really hot in summer ... also at times on fire.

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How would that sheep skin work for you in summer?

You know it may actually make it cooler in summer and Warmer in winter ... unlike leather/Pleather/Vinyl.

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You better get both so you can swap them out seasonally.

I Would love to, and if I won the lottery I would, but I need to save the money for this ...

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-apache-64-collective-grip.html

and this ....

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-rotor-tcs-plus-base-upgraded.html
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