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[Oldman731]

So this was a HO?

First one was, not the others.

Just saying [t/m Pasha]

- oldman

[Dadtallica]

It will get up to 110-130 at prime time. But still, I’m concerned about no buffer if it takes a hit.

Love the ideas tho

It hasn’t been above 108 people in several months. It only crests 100 briefly now. 80-90 is much closer to the new average. Not expecting much of a winter bump.

I also think the game is fine as is and don’t care about the rest of this nonsense. You’re all playing a game, one that is in its final stages,  try to remember that and just enjoy what you have.

[yipi]

Radar was changed to help new players find the action. This sim has potential because of its VR. They should put on steam a package and sell for xheap. Make one where your the gunner on a bomber shooting AI attacking it. Make one where your the gunner on field. Start with guns then get them to planes Could sell each for 20 dollars.

[Dadtallica]

Radar was changed to help new players find the action. This sim has potential because of its VR. They should put on steam a package and sell for xheap. Make one where your the gunner on a bomber shooting AI attacking it. Make one where your the gunner on field. Start with guns then get them to planes Could sell each for 20 dollars.

The steam release did not end well.

[The Fugitive]

The steam release did not end well.

Only because they were not ready for it. On top of that, the numbers portrayed by Steam only included Steam players. By using them it looks like there are 10 players when there are another 100 coming in thru HTC direct.

I think rebranding the game and rereleasing it thru stream might be a good way to go.

[Animl-AW]

It hasn’t been above 108 people in several months. It only crests 100 briefly now. 80-90 is much closer to the new average. Not expecting much of a winter bump.

I also think the game is fine as is and don’t care about the rest of this nonsense. You’re all playing a game, one that is in its final stages,  try to remember that and just enjoy what you have.

Not true,  maybe when you’re on. I’ve seen 110 to 130 in the last cpl months for sure. In fact I posted 2-3 days ago on 200 it was 120. It was over 100 every day but one the last week. If the 10 that stopped flying because of Skyyr’s antics it would be higher. You probably don’t watch the numbers like I do. But then, your tribe disagree with everything I say.  Except that last week we had the same numbers as last summer. Had these 10 been playing we would hit 120-140.

Don’t know about where others live, but here weather has been superb all summer. Many times I didn’t fly was because its just so nice outside.

Doomsayers have been doomsaying since my first day back, the numbers have stayed pretty solid.  They were even barking when we hit 160-200. Every day is doomsday to them. Its like they want it to happen just to be right once.

Doomsday threads and Skyyr impacts numbers, they do it anyway. As I said when I came back and now, some of the players are dragging it down more than the game itself. Doom doom doom and then more doom.

I helped a new player a few nights ago, seen a few others.

I’m not under a notion that we will hit History Channel commercial and first steam days, that were false positives,. Same people said the same thing to me last yr, then we hit 200.

I think some here disagree with me just for the sake of disagreeing.

Prime time has always been the peak numbers. Same as last yr, before prime time under 100. Same same.

I was told advertising won’t move the needle, then it moved. Then you your self who saud the same advertised and brought in some players.

Threads where you 5 attacked my every word hurt numbers, ya did it anyway because of obsession over-ruled common logic. Didn’t care about the damage as long as you got your poke in. 

Trolls posting another sim in every thread they entered hurt us. They even posted it 5 times in the MotA announcement thread. Even tho some players bit the hook, most came right back. It wasn’t what they were sold on.

I expect you to disagree, you’ve done it every time since I didn’t make my crappy videos your way. You’re part of the 5, I expect it now, every time.

[Animl-AW]

First one was, not the others.

Just saying [t/m Pasha]

- oldman

He’s under the notion that I care. He dies in the MA every 15-20 minutes, or kess, the same as everyone else, by people he says suck. <shrug>

Pasha, is he still with us? I hope he’s doing well. Wasn’t he the one who made guitars for famous players, including Slash, ir do I have him mixed up?

[DmonSlyr]

It seems to me that you've went from understanding this is a combat sim based on ACM to treating it like Call of Duty or some other addict-enabling video game.

Knowing an opponent's position BEFORE engagement is the lowest tier of concern in terms of a WWII, guns-only combat environment and one that has the lowest effects in terms of outcome.

At some point, your hypothetical noobs need to employ ACM. This is, after all, a pseudo-sim based on emulated physics. If you're losing simply because someone knows where you are, then you're just a bad pilot, all things being equal.

Those are incorrect assessments. I'm trying to prevent the MA from becoming COD and match play, which is basically what it is  with dar and kill messages. SA given away changes tactics for one opponent while the other is oblivious. I'm not sure if you've played other games but knowing spawn points is a huge advantage. Knowing which players died are huge advantage.

If two players have the same level of skill, but one player has the alt advantage to begin, generally the plane that is lower will lose. If one player sets up plane and E advantage over the unspecting pilot who just got a kill, It's not about skill necessarily, but of strategic advantage of position over the other. It may also tell players to avoid that plane because they know who it is.

Secondly, even if noobs know and understand ACM. They do not know the physics of the game and how each plane flies in the game. Thus, at a disadvantage. Knowing ACM is one thing, employing it correctly in the plane vs another plane is completely different. It's action vs theory. They don't know how hard to pull up yet. They haven't figured out plane characteristics and how to aim, nor how well the other pilot can perform ACM in their plane and how well that plane can turn, ect ect. So when a vet is flying their same effective plane, they know far more how to handle it and kill them over and over anyway. Regardless of any knowledge of SA by the noob who doesn't understand the game well enough yet.

So them get slaughtered over and over again after flying out for 10 minutes isn't necessarily their idea of fun. It's only the few players who are extremely interested in learning who stick around. But when everyone is in the same fast cannon birds it doesn't do noobs any favors.

[Animl-AW]

Those are incorrect assessments. I'm trying to prevent the MA from becoming COD and match play, which is basically what it is  with dar and kill messages. SA given away changes tactics for one opponent while the other is oblivious. I'm not sure if you've played other games but knowing spawn points is a huge advantage. Knowing which players died are huge advantage.

If two players have the same level of skill, but one player has the alt advantage to begin, generally the plane that is lower will lose. If one player sets up plane and E advantage over the unspecting pilot who just got a kill, It's not about skill necessarily, but of strategic advantage of position over the other. It may also tell players to avoid that plane because they know who it is.

Secondly, even if noobs know and understand ACM. They do not know the physics of the game and how each plane flies in the game. Thus, at a disadvantage. Knowing ACM is one thing, employing it correctly in the plane vs another plane is completely different. It's action vs theory. They don't know how hard to pull up yet. They haven't figured out plane characteristics and how to aim, nor how well the other pilot can perform ACM in their plane and how well that plane can turn, ect ect. So when a vet is flying their same effective plane, they know far more how to handle it and kill them over and over anyway. Regardless of any knowledge of SA by the noob who doesn't understand the game well enough yet.

So them get slaughtered over and over again after flying out for 10 minutes isn't necessarily their idea of fun. It's only the few players who are extremely interested in learning who stick around. But when everyone is in the same fast cannon birds it doesn't do noobs any favors.

The current dar is one player’s fav tool, so is kill announcements. Thats why it bothers you more now days. Without it he’s tactics are sharply diminished.

Don’t sit on the bench because of him, saddle up and lets go after him the same way. I like hiw he insults players for bad acm, next line he’s shot down by average player.

We’ve talked, I know where you are. But don’t hand him satisfaction. We can do the same he does others. I pulled some string 2-3 nights in a row, he was lucky to get more than 1-2 kills per sortie. Fight back. He didn’t like that someone was playing him with his own tactics/rules. Funny as hell.

[Skyyr]

He dies in the MA every 15-20 minutes, or kess, the same as everyone else, by people he says suck. <shrug>

And I average 4-5 kills every 15-20 minutes. Lol. Do you not understand how K/D and K/T work?

Just because you average 1 kill for 4 deaths and only get 3 kills an hour doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Max]

I think rebranding the game and rereleasing it thru stream might be a good way to go.

It would be worth a shot but I don't see it happening unless Dale sells his interest and a new dev team takes over the reins.

[The Fugitive]

It would be worth a shot but I don't see it happening unless Dale sells his interest and a new dev team takes over the reins.

I hesitate a lot when the talk of "selling" comes up. When AW was sold the player base was all kinds of excited. New money coming in from a big developer, everything looked like it was going to be amazing with what they could do! and all they did was close it   

I think rebranding wouldnt be too tuff. HTC has down a lot of update since the last offering to steam so they could call it a rebrand easy enough. Knowing how it all went down before they could be a bit more ready for it with a bunch of people to be on hand to help out and such.

[Animl-AW]

And I average 4-5 kills every 15-20 minutes. Lol. Do you not understand how K/D and K/T work?

Just because you average 1 kill for 4 deaths and only get 3 kills an hour doesn't mean everyone else does.

1, you hijacked a thread again with your drama.

Nope, don’t care. Not everyone is as consumed, swallowed whole, like you. Do you really think anyone here cares? Ya came in here belittling someone you chased from the game, so I sucked your fragile ego to me. Simple.

Of course, you have no clue why my score is what it is. I bail often to go somewhere else, more likely to be shot by field guns than shot by you. Obviously, I DO NOT CARE, YOU DO.

So no, what eats you alive doesn’t even affect me.

I’m not embarrassed by your immature postings, I’m embarrassed for you.
You have a severe case of inferiority complex.

Ya remind me of a spoiled rotten silver spoon brat. “life is all about me”

<walks away smh>

[Skyyr]

1, you hijacked a thread again with your drama.

Nah, you did that and cried victim when you got called out:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409719.msg5431179.html#msg5431179

You make Goebbels look like a saint.

[Animl-AW]

I hesitate a lot when the talk of "selling" comes up. When AW was sold the player base was all kinds of excited. New money coming in from a big developer, everything looked like it was going to be amazing with what they could do! and all they did was close it 

I still have scars from that incident.
Several of us had the dreaded feeling they were really buying the player base and once they got the competition player base in their hands they would kill it.  Thats how it turned out. Bought it to kill it.

Said this for a long time, AH is in a much different and safer situation.
>IF< HT could get one small last team together, and pull off one more good update, the population would absolutely grow. 3D engine?, visual effects, game tweaks. AH gas a chance. How many players are in other sims fir that very reason? <shrug>

Even if that were not to take place, at least its safe where it is. In this current suspended animation, its really up to the community its life expectancy. You are the advertisement and retain players.