You know who.

[Animl-AW]

The "us" is our squad, mostly myself and Skyyr. Read the linked thread and it would make sense.

Why is it Skyyr, no matter what game he's been in, has been accused of and booted because of cheating? It's his entire reputation. I know somethings I've seen are not normal.. It seem your name and V know about his entire life and every breath. Kinda sound like the same person.

Point being, he's known for cheating and being a total Awipe, in every game I heard he was in.

So lets cut this sympathy and excuses crap, Not one damn thing innocent about him.

[mechanic]

Bro, come on. You called us out so many times I lost count. Skyyr didn't even want to duel you until you starting broadcasting on 200 that you threw down a challenge. You even made a post about it.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365247.msg4860133.html#msg4860133

Then, when you lost, you claimed it was for "fun." Like I said, grow up and own your loss. Let it go.

Here's the duel, please point out where Skyyr asked for your help and you gave him tips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoaCJ_6aL6c

I enjoyed the back and forth until you guys started trying to claim we were all friendly and such.

This fantasy of your fearless and honourable leader has to end Kruel.  I went to fight him. I spanked him a few fights. My better nature took over, we mixed up the planes a lot. Here is a snap of me being kind with tips when he said he was trying to learn.



But all the while, he was sending 'score' update PMs to a sycophantic squadmate, unbeknownst to me... Clearly shown in the video if anyone was bored enough to watch a whole hour of aces high dueling...ever


these examples took me 5 mins to find in that ridiculous hour long youtube video titled   'Batfink VS Skyrr! (Spoiler - Batfink loses)'

The video itself is cut in a lot of places where we chatted between fights. I left that session feeling like he was not that bad a guy in the end and felt good to have helped him. He really sucked back then, all he had was high E tactics and engine off ropes. Beating him in the La7s was fairly simple. Making more of a fair fight and trying to have fun came back to bite me in the backside. I could easily have left after the three spankings and never agreed to go back.

It's over Kruel, give it up already

[Kruel]

 

This fantasy of your fearless and honourable leader has to end Kruel.  I went to fight him. I spanked him a few fights. My better nature took over, we mixed up the planes a lot. Here is a snap of me being kind with tips when he said he was trying to learn.

(Image removed from quote.)

But all the while, he was sending 'score' update PMs to a sycophantic squadmate, unbeknownst to me... Clearly shown in the video if anyone was bored enough to watch a whole hour of aces high dueling...ever


these examples took me 5 mins to find in that ridiculous hour long youtube video titled   'Batfink VS Skyrr! (Spoiler - Batfink loses)'

The video itself is cut in a lot of places where we chatted between fights. I left that session feeling like he was not that bad a guy in the end and felt good to have helped him. He really sucked back then, all he had was high E tactics and engine off ropes. Beating him in the La7s was fairly simple. Making more of a fair fight and trying to have fun came back to bite me in the backside. I could easily have left after the three spankings and never agreed to go back.

It's over Kruel, give it up already

So let me see if I can reconstruct your series of events:

You called Skyyr and me out to duel. Skyyr said "not interested." You repeatedly demanded to duel him and even made the post, mocking him for not fighting you.

He finally agreed. You then said first to 7, but then halfway through decided to go easy and let him win, calling it a friendly duel. A duel he didn't want and you demanded take place?

 

Now where have I seen this excuse before? Oh lol, I remember.
Your format was the exact same format every Muppet followed after they lost to skyyr. You called him out, mocked him (and myself I might add) on your private forums, then made posts here on the AH forums demanding he duel you... and you lost.

And then you want to claim you helped him and it was "friendly." 

If it helps you sleep better a night, pumpkin, believe that all you want. No one else does. Maybe you forgot, but I was there for almost all of the duels and it was most certainly not friendly.

This isn't the first time you tried to pass off this lie either. I called you out on it 10 years ago and I ain't gonna stop now. Read through this old thread and you'll see we all called you out for the same lie then too.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,368633.msg4909625.html#msg4909625

[mechanic]

ok mate, you believe what you like.

It was you that he was PM'ing a score update after every fight in that hour and a half of 'gaming fun'? While in open chat I was offering advice.

I don't see you posting any videos of you and me dueling. Wonder why.

You cannot 'let someone win' if you are not trying to win anything.

I am completely secure about who i am, about how I conducted myself when I flew in this game and especially about my motivations for ever going to the DA with someone. I'm pretty sure that any other person who did 1on1 fights with me would see the experience of fighting me in the DA in a different light.

Give up. The only person you are trying to convince is yourself.

[Kruel]

ok mate, you believe what you like.

It was you that he was PM'ing a score update after every fight in that hour and a half of 'gaming fun'? While in open chat I was offering advice.

I don't see you posting any videos of you and me dueling. Wonder why.

You cannot 'let someone win' if you are not trying to win anything.

I am completely secure about who i am, about how I conducted myself when I flew in this game and especially about my motivations for ever going to the DA with someone. I'm pretty sure that any other person who did 1on1 fights with me would see the experience of fighting me in the DA in a different light.

Give up. The only person you are trying to convince is yourself.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. This was settled almost a decade ago, which is beyond sad that you can't let it go. You were the one who demanded he fight you and then you want to act like you were helping him? 

That's some funny toejam. You called us both out, as can be seen from the link. There was nothing friendly about that duel.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,365247.msg4860133.html#msg4860133

And I have never been afraid to duel anyone, win or lose. That's partially why I find this so hypocritical and sad. You didn't see me making excuses about "this was just for fun" on the occasions I lost, but for some reason almost everyone in your squad did.

[mechanic]

You are very silly.

It is you who cannot let anything go. Your hero has constantly shown himself to be narcissistic, selfish, petty and ego driven on a level that many of us could not have even imagined possible. A consummate liar. Capable of a propaganda campaign worthy of the most despicable politician.

Yet you still defend him. I admire your loyalty. A fine quality.

Such a shame that you are no longer useful to him. That loyalty you display will never be returned.

Yet here you are, every day, still protecting the monster you could not see. But you will. This community is so great that it will even forgive you...when you do finally realise how you've been used.

[nrshida]

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. This was settled almost a decade ago,

Cobblers on both counts. You are here trying to forcefully assert the legacy of your master and most of us don't agree it fits into the criteria we use to measure that.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409818.msg5433214.html#msg5433214

None of those were duels from YKW's end in what an AH duel was accepted to be: an even matched contest in the same planes. YKW didn't do that, he went full ghey on every merge only beginning to fight once he had secured an advantage through essentially not fighting. As passive-aggressive as the rest of his personality. Might as well have entered each duel with a 2k height advantege. Speaking of which a particular Muppet befriended and helped me before his passing and shared lots of films. Some of those were duels before the air spawns were introduced. And guess what, YKW was climbing above the agreed alt and diving to level outside of icon range for an airspeed advantage. Just like EAce used to do. It appears some evidence is promoted while some is surpressed. Where are the Grizz duels? Somehow imagine you have unrestricted access to the positive evidence on YKW's HD. Or are those ingenuously lumped together by association and implied from the MA when Grizz popped back in for a weekend after leaving the game? I saw Grizz's comments about those btw. YKW didn't prove anything in these 'duels' beyond the axiom that even a Chimpanzee with a Kalashnikov is dangerous.

Arguing that's the correct way to fight and they do it in other simulators is besides the point. YKW never pointed out the nature of duelling in AH was based on a particular local premise which is flawed in the real-world (we know that), he just took advantage of the culture to elbow his way to the front of the stage of greatness and take all the credit personally. A workaround as with most of what he did in the MA too. Workaround the anonymity of the red icons. Workaround the side-swapping restriction. Workaround the SA of the average player by having his squad distributed over different sides. Workaround deficiencies of squadmates by flying under their callsigns. Workaround the drag modelling. Work around the torque modelling. Same pattern of behaviour with his pilot's licence. Entirely besides the point if his Daddy paid for him to become an glorified driving instructor teaching old rich ladies to fly a Cessna 152: in the game it was all gaming the game.

Krup was the one Muppet who actually was nice to us and Skyyr and he never dueled or held a score out of respect for each other.

Cuts right to the core of what YKW was all about. At the end of the day can't stand criticism, anyone proposing a disagreeable position a difference of opnion or even simple ambivalence. YKW was a master of spin, gaslighting and manipulation of both events and other people and we all know that. All this talk of him being a great teacher, did he ever teach any of you to fight cohesively or was it just little tips and tricks which presented as helpful? He told you exactly what you wanted to hear so you could join his you-against-them cult. Even the Muppets fought amongst themselves. You don't find out what a man is made of by fawning to him. You find out by crossing him. I presume he's still alive? Give it a try.

Coincidentally, he was also the best Muppet because he actually learned from Skyyr and improved, unlike the rest of your comrades.

Did Joach1m learn from YKW? (it's rhetorical, I already know the answer)

Then, when you lost, you claimed it was for "fun." Like I said, grow up and own your loss. Let it go.

That's a Strawman argument. Batfink was well known for doing what he said he did. In addition you have failed to assert the premise that results are the only thing that counts regardless of circumstances. If you ever want the stem of the saying statistics lie all the time then here's your example. Sitting on a pile of films like Hoover waiting to spin those whenever someone 'turned aggressive'. What kind of a dishonourable weirdo carries on like this?

Skyyr speaking through  a proxy.

Yes let's talk about this. YKW has been banned from this forum and from the game as well I believe. To my eyes the following post seems to have been mostly draughted by YKW:

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,409818.msg5433214.html#msg5433214

Precise links to all of the files in correct order etc etc. Very neatly autistic you'd almost say. Did YKW email you that Kruel? Or the body of it? Is this another example of YKW 'flying under someone else's account'?

If Kruel has nothing to contribute to this forum beyond being a proxy mouthpiece for YKW then why is he similarly not PNGed? HiTech said YKW is gone...

[Eagler]

This isn't going to go away unless it is ignored...

Can we start ignoring it now?

Eagler

[LCADolby]

And guess what, YKW was climbing above the agreed alt and diving to level outside of icon range for an airspeed advantage. Just like EAce used to do.

Ha, that brings back memories, I busted a few people doing that; Fester was one. We ended up the in the DA after an exchange in the MA and I won in 109s, then after that he was having a noticeable E advantage over me I couldn't always over come. Later I checked my film and he was mid dive just as he popped in range. His aircraft decelerating into the merge taught me how to spot other guys doing that.
Another guy was SEViper, the initial results of the duel weren't as he imagined and then spent so much flying for E over his field that when we merged I was almost in ack range of his base.
I busted a few more not memorable enough to list.. MrCrowley was the funniest, rather than tricks he just claimed his house was burning down and left the DA.

A false sense of superiority is so hollow and meaningless I don't know how anyone would want to resort to it 

[LCADolby]

And I have never been afraid to duel anyone, win or lose.

Of course not, you can just exchange IDs with Stalkyyr and have him do the fighting for you. 

[GasTeddy]

Of course not, you can just exchange IDs with Stalkyyr and have him do the fighting for you. 

One and the same person or Siamese twins, IMHO.

[Mayhem]

Crack that whip, give the past a slip
Step on a crack, break your momma's back

When a problem comes along, you must lock it
Before the screams get too long, you must lock it
When something's going wrong, you must lock it

Now lock it into shape, shape it up, get straight
Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late
To lock it, lock it good

When a good time turns around, you must lock it
You will never live it down unless you lock it
No one gets away until they lock it

I say lock it, lock it good
I say lock it, lock it good

Crack that whip, give the past a slip
Step on a crack, break your momma's back

When a problem comes along, you must lock it
Before the screams get too long, you must lock it
When something's going wrong, you must lock it

Now lock it into shape, shape it up, get straight
Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late
To lock it into shape, shape it up, get straight
Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late
To lock it, well, lock it good