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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2024, 12:04:15 PM »
This kind of stuff cracks me up.

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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2024, 02:53:58 PM »
What do you need basic soldiering for? When was the last time that was needed on US ground?  :cheers:
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2024, 04:11:58 PM »
What do you need basic soldiering for? When was the last time that was needed on US ground?  :cheers:

Kinda sounds like the military might be quite busy on USA soil soon.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2024, 04:15:08 PM »
Have any children and if so would they be eligible?

    What difference does it make if I have children? Did your children Serve?
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2024, 04:15:19 PM »
We've got a guard unit next to our shop and on occasion  they will do timed runs.  Let me just say that it ain't pretty.   
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2024, 04:20:36 PM »
Kinda sounds like the military might be quite busy on USA soil soon.

If so, what a shame.  Didn't have to be like that, did it?
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2024, 10:00:54 PM »
Won't be no draft unless/until we need it. Technology will compensate for the weak bodies and minds to a significant degree. Hopefully.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2024, 10:11:50 PM »
In the later years of the Iran Iraq war they were throwing pre-adolescent children at each other. 5 year old children were being sent ahead into the mine fields to sweep them. Foolish to imagine this could never happen to you if you do nothing to prepare.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2024, 11:08:46 PM »
Three separate Branches
    First Armed Forces 30-month enlistment
    Second Border enforcement and transportation of illegals 36- month service
    Third would be conservation Unit, Maintain Federal land, orderlies at hospitals and grounds men
     maintain border right of way 36-month enlistment
     All take the same basic training before their separate advanced training/no wash out till failing basic
     training for third time
    No deferments
    Both sexes
    Draft by lottery


With one exception, I'm for this.  That exception is the "draft by lottery."  You should get to pick one of the three, but everyone should be drafted.  Otherwise, some people get an unfair head start.

From an individual perspective, being in a service gives you a better appreciation of life, and what you have to do with it.  I've known too many people who went from high school straight to college, and came out on the other side with no clear idea what to do next.

From a society perspective, having your son or daughter in harm's way may counsel your views about overseas interventions.  If we'd had the professional army of today in 1965, we might still be fighting in Viet Nam.

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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2024, 06:48:10 AM »

With one exception, I'm for this.  That exception is the "draft by lottery."  You should get to pick one of the three, but everyone should be drafted.  Otherwise, some people get an unfair head start.

From an individual perspective, being in a service gives you a better appreciation of life, and what you have to do with it.  I've known too many people who went from high school straight to college, and came out on the other side with no clear idea what to do next.

From a society perspective, having your son or daughter in harm's way may counsel your views about overseas interventions.  If we'd had the professional army of today in 1965, we might still be fighting in Viet Nam.

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   At the end basic given a choice of which branch to go into.  this would depend on Branches needs.
   When I went through basic, I had played college football and worked in construction, it was not that tuff for me, but I did lean down. There was a weakling who could not do 10 push-ups. They rode him so hard by the end of basic he was doing one handed push up with either hand. It was made clear you did not want to be a recycle and start basic over. Thus the idea of three shots at basic before wash out
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2024, 11:12:14 AM »
Ummm,

This isn't the 1960s Vietnam era.

Every job in the military has standards and requirements like an ASVAB score and physical fitness.

Most American's Can't even make the physical requirements to serve.

Getting out of the draft would be to easy. Smoke a joint; it's legal in more than half the country or Play connect the dots on the asvab, fail your physical, Get Fat, Be an emotional woke soyboi.

A draft will never ever happen and lets be honest Conscription/Drafts are flippin slavery and should be considered a human rights violation, they deteriorate the over all quality of your armed forces.

I would much rather serve with some one that wanted to serve rather than serve with some one that was forced to serve against their will. I would never trust a Draftee/conscript to cover my arse then the ball goes up.

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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2024, 12:07:18 PM »
With advanced technology integrated into so many areas within our military adequate training becomes a must. Readiness requires an adequate number of well trained troops. It takes time. If we go to war we'll go to war with what we have ready.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2024, 09:33:20 PM »
    What difference does it make if I have children? Did your children Serve?
    Oldest son 3 tours Irag retired Army
    Youngest daughter husband retired Army
    Oldest daughters husband retired Navy
    Oldest grandson 5 years Army

Very large  :salute  for their service. And no children to serve here.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2024, 09:42:57 PM »
 My oldest son served in the Army guard for a while. My youngest son wanted to but a torn pcl in highschool football interfered. I've discouraged all 10 of my grandsons from joining. None have any interest now. Things turn around who knows.
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Re: Re- instate The Draft
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2024, 08:18:50 AM »
The draft is always suggested by those who don’t have to do it.