This morning

[1Cane]

Talking to my wife about the fires this morning and she talked about a Fire she saw in Maryland in the early sixties. Cold winter day in Maryland snow on the ground two story house ablaze. The fireman went up a ladder and carried the adult and children down making several trips. It was exhausting work and showed the man's dedication!
He was a fireman not someone who wears the uniform and calls himself one.
Am I wrong to expect my all fireman to meet the requirements of the job?

[guncrasher]

one house. imagine the same man bringing people from 1000 houses because they refused to leave.


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[Shuffler]

Don't depend on anyone.

Today they call people in tractor trailer rigs, truck drivers. Most can't back the truck up at all. Only a few are actually truck drivers.

[Meatwad]

No it is not wrong to expect someone to actually do the job they were hired to do. However, it IS WRONG to hire someone through DEI instead of job qualifications

[1Cane]

one house. imagine the same man bringing people from 1000 houses because they refused to leave.


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Was talking about a single house fire not a thousand

[guncrasher]

Was talking about a single house fire not a thousand

the answer my friend is in your op.  meet the qualifications, when was the last time a chief of firemen went up a ladder?

you posting  because you have a bias.


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[Busher]

Talking to my wife about the fires this morning and she talked about a Fire she saw in Maryland in the early sixties. Cold winter day in Maryland snow on the ground two story house ablaze. The fireman went up a ladder and carried the adult and children down making several trips. It was exhausting work and showed the man's dedication!
He was a fireman not someone who wears the uniform and calls himself one.
Am I wrong to expect my all fireman to meet the requirements of the job?

I admire what all first responders do, especially firefighters. Clearly the implicit remark here is not based upon the courage demonstrated by one firefighter but your judgement that another firefighter failed to demonstrate (in your opinion) adequate bravery.

Until you've risked your own life to save another's, maybe save your judgement of other people. Not every veteran has a medal for valor either.

[1Cane]

The fireman's oath is almost the same oath as those who serve in the military. The last line is
               "That I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter,"
It doesn't say those that I agree to ala General Miley countermanding a President.
A General rarely leads a bayonet charge but he expects his men too.
 As a Contractor on the Mojave Desert, I have put more than one bleeding man in my truck to take to hospital after supplying battlefield type first aid. Never forget one started hyperventilating and I told him to take control of his self since I was driving. To this day he is mad at me.
The oath I took when I joined, I followed, went where I was told did tasks' I was assigned didn't think much about killing other guy but had a strong opinion about dying for my country.
It goes back to taking the" Kings Shilling"    you took the money you do the job

[Eagler]

They changed the entrance qualifications to make it more inclusive...

Many have done the same..not being racist nor male chauvinist..just a fact

Eagler

[RUSH1]

one house. imagine the same man bringing people from 1000 houses because they refused to leave.


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Or you can ignore/spin his point?     

[RUSH1]

I admire what all first responders do, especially firefighters. Clearly the implicit remark here is not based upon the courage demonstrated by one firefighter but your judgement that another firefighter failed to demonstrate (in your opinion) adequate bravery.

Until you've risked your own life to save another's, maybe save your judgement of other people. Not every veteran has a medal for valor either.

What a load of deflection. 

[Busher]

What a load of deflection.

Not even close. Just fed-up with biased judgements about others.

[RUSH1]

Not even close. Just fed-up with biased judgements about others.

And the country is fed up with government's bias hiring process and with large corporations that have a political agenda, like BlackRock, forcing the same bias hiring guidelines on the private sector. 

[Busher]

And the country is fed up with government's bias hiring process and with large corporations that have a political agenda, like BlackRock, forcing the same bias hiring guidelines on the private sector.

Seems most believe you have elected the Saviour to right these perceived wrongs.

[RUSH1]

Seems most believe you have elected the Saviour to right these perceived wrongs.

Because hiring someone based upon merit is such a radical idea.