If it's free..it's for me

[hazmatt]

Youngest son had a girlfriend who moved to the US from Russia when she was 10. Her grandfather was a tail gunner in the IL-2 during WWII.

Wow! he lived? I read somewhere that Il2s tended to lose a lot of tail gunners.

[hazmatt]

Playing the single player IL2 career modes and other missions have helped to improve my A2A skills greatly. Every time I start to fall back into old habits here I make sure to spend a day or two each week doing some IL2 missions. Usually helps right my ship not sure why.

I’m picking up the TA152 for $4!

I bought the 152 when it first came out. I really liked it.

[hazmatt]

How is AH "not fair"? You can fly whatever plane you want, having an unequal matchup is a product of your own choices.

Also, likewise, I doubt the vast majority here could handle IL2s flight model complexity. You can't just firewall the throttle the entire sortie without blowing your engine up.

Some of the planes in IL2 are downright difficult to manage the complexities of for sure. I try to stick with plane with more automation as I can destroy the engines in some of the others while still in sight of the airfield

[hazmatt]

Well my point was that if you don't choose the best late war plane in AH, your automatically at a unfair position relatively speaking. Where as these other games are AVA in the same time frame so everything is more relative. That being said, In furball situations, the allied (P51s and P47s) are generally at a disadvantage because they weren't designed for furballing really. But I find that many have probably left AH becasue it's quite the challenge having to fight against better planes (if you dont chose to fly them, and then being ganged by them.) On top of having to fight all axis and allied planes at the same time.

My biggest issues with IL2 and DCS multi-player right now is there is no action on the map and it makes it very tough to find where the action/fight is. And then it's no icons so I have to go blind trying to figure out which one is friendly vs enemy in the furball. By that time my SA is already compromised. Something I'm still getting use to. I stare at a computer all day so staring more at planes with no icons is tough for me.

In IL2 and WT sim I look for contrails tracers or wingtip vorticies

[hazmatt]

I haven't tried the newer IL-2 stuff but is it not an option to build your own server any longer? If it is possible, maybe a server with icons, all the micro management stuff toned down or turned off with settings similar to AH maybe? I don't know. I know I do prefer to find battles, not have to micro manage everything.....although, I think it'd be cool if you couldn't fly around all day with the throttle at 100%. Anyhow, point being, maybe there's a way to get something similar to what we have here with a server and settings.

You can still host your own server with a dedicated server account. (free for the asking)

There are server that you can fly on that do have icons.

[AKIron]

Wow! he lived? I read somewhere that Il2s tended to lose a lot of tail gunners.

He did. My son met him when he made a visit to the US from Moscow.

[Dadtallica]

Yeah, it's great with all the mods. Hell, I even like the graphics.
However, I was adding some skins recently and screwed my entire build up. I'm in the middle of reinstalling everything currently. Damn, I had all my controls and stuff mapped perfectly.

Some dudes are working on CLOD and it's pretty good too.

None of them match AH for me but it's good to have something to fall back on I suppose.

The new BAT mod update broke 46. I haven’t gone back to fix it yet.

[Eagler]

Though the two - il2 and dcs - have better graphics than AH I see planes/bogies worse in both in vr which makes them much less enjoyable imo

Eagler

[Shane]

Though the two - il2 and dcs - have better graphics than AH I see planes/bogies worse in both in vr which makes them much less enjoyable imo

Eagler

I never totally understood why combat flight sims expect us to play like we're legally blind in the name of "realism."  My r/l fov exceeds even the size of the monitor in front of them. 

[Devil 505]

I never totally understood why combat flight sims expect us to play like we're legally blind in the name of "realism."  My r/l fov exceeds even the size of the monitor in front of them.

I agree.

I hate the elitism present overall in those player bases in regards to "realism". They can all STFU unless they are playing on full fidelity sim pits with motion control seats in a projector dome. If I can't learn to fly the real plane using their rig, they're still just playing a game.

[xanax]

The new BAT mod update broke 46. I haven’t gone back to fix it yet.

Yeah, My BAT on top of 46 is what's broke for me. I deleted the whole thing in disgust after trying to fix. I'll give it another try when I get really bored.

I will say that it's quite a compelling game when it's working. The gameplay and graphics are really good despite their age. Folks are really making nice efforts to keep 1946 going.

[DmonSlyr]

I agree.

I hate the elitism present overall in those player bases in regards to "realism". They can all STFU unless they are playing on full fidelity sim pits with motion control seats in a projector dome. If I can't learn to fly the real plane using their rig, they're still just playing a game.

I'm with you there. Its never gonna be "real" unless it's real. You are always at fualt with the games mechanics, flight model, and view restrictions ect. Even the furball situations I've seen on servers aren't realistic. Like, I wouldn't take my P51 into a full on unorganized furball pit. If you want realism, IMO, special events like FSO are the most real because it's mission based, based on real missions and strategic squad operations involved on both sides that creates true engagements. Other games just don't provide that. I don't need an Awacs radar, but I wouldn't mind my plane showing on the radar so I know where I'm at easier, and I wouldn't mind action flashing on the map so I know where the main battle area is. For me, the server based match play just doesn't provide the same war like concept as the MA either. I also agree with Spikes that a little blue or red notch over the plane would be extremely helpful.

I'm also with people in the views. I don't really like using trackir or VR becasue I cannot manage the look behind position to where I want. Like the F4u in AH for example. Just horrible if you cant set your look behind view right. It's so crucial to maintaining sight on the enemy. With no icons its even much harder. Like I'm trying to position my body and head to look at a certain spot and it doesn't give correctly, so that's something that can put you at a disadvantage. I know my hatswitch and views in AH are just like I need them, so it makes no sense to limit myself if I cant get the views I need. 

[Tumor]

I don't need an Awacs radar, but I wouldn't mind my plane showing on the radar so I know where I'm at easier, and I wouldn't mind action flashing on the map so I know where the main battle area is.

That's all there on Combat Box (don't know about other servers)... but not visually.  You have to use SRS(for IL2) (Simple Radio Standalone).  It's small, simple to use and you can interact with it using voice commands.  REALLY improves the game.

[hazmatt]

Yeah, My BAT on top of 46 is what's broke for me. I deleted the whole thing in disgust after trying to fix. I'll give it another try when I get really bored.

I will say that it's quite a compelling game when it's working. The gameplay and graphics are really good despite their age. Folks are really making nice efforts to keep 1946 going.

I never installed any mods cause I read somewhere you couldn't play online if you had mods installed. What is this BAT thing you speak of?

[hazmatt]

That's all there on Combat Box (don't know about other servers)... but not visually.  You have to use SRS(for IL2) (Simple Radio Standalone).  It's small, simple to use and you can interact with it using voice commands.  REALLY improves the game.

OH ya! I always use it to get a vector to the nearest friendly base when I get lost. Has saved my butt numerous times.