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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2025, 02:39:52 PM »
And y'all wonder why people don't want to play this game anymore. Most of you people live and die by the stupid score as if it makes you something important. AcesHigh doesn't suck.....it's the players that run players off. Get some help. What a bunch of childish old men y'all are.

No kidding
a weekly hysteria over something in that game that makes it all wrong.it does make the game stink a bit. Like old biddies.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2025, 09:56:42 PM »
Ganging in 5-8 eny planes runs more players out of the game more than anything. Gotta be tough in this game to be able to handle and accept the fact that you'll get ganged most often. Its just the name of the game. But many players dont know defense ACM and it makes it extremely difficult for them and after a while it just gets tiring. If its tough for me, I know its 3x times harder for most with less experience. Wish we could make an unwritten rule of 2 only but its just not gonna happen in a relm with no structural command.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2025, 10:46:31 PM »
Ganging in 5-8 eny planes runs more players out of the game more than anything. Gotta be tough in this game to be able to handle and accept the fact that you'll get ganged most often. Its just the name of the game. But many players dont know defense ACM and it makes it extremely difficult for them and after a while it just gets tiring. If its tough for me, I know its 3x times harder for most with less experience. Wish we could make an unwritten rule of 2 only but its just not gonna happen in a relm with no structural command.

There is some truth to that. More so, newbs may never get great.

That said, I get a chuckle out if draggin 4-6 anywhere I want, especially if we have troops coming in. Its very easy to pull a full troll line. If they are on your 6 they ain’t killin troops. :)

But ya, unsportsman-like.
Like all games, if they can, they will. This is why vents/scenarios are better than the MA, they are structured and have rules. The best part of this game is not the MA. Why worry about it?

I don’t mind as much the 5-1, its great SA training for scenarios, it makes 1 or 2 - 1. My best flying is in scenarios. Ya can’t just re-up 30 times.

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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2025, 02:17:11 AM »
Wrong thread?  No one here is complaining about score.  People would like integrity in the games they play, otherwise it will run players off.

Naw this is the right thread. The OP doesn't like being confronted during his factory attacks and he's concerned it the same guy under a different name. Why care about that stuff, if not about messing up his milk run score sheet?

But my deeper point being, that is this thread is more about the attitude of a lot of players now. You talk about keeping the integrity of the game but what about the integrity of the players playing this game? Just a couple of posts above this one they're talking about 5 on 1 being a common and even expected thing. Where's the integrity there I ask? Everyone claims they're a big bad fighter pilot yet most fly in packs like a bunch of wolves like they did something. How about 2 go in and the other hold cap or something? But no it takes 7 Spitfires to kill a P40 now I guess.  :rolleyes:
Everyone claims they want a fight, yet the OP seems concerned he keeps getting one. No, it's not about score. It's about egos and dislike for one another with this player base. It's a huge turn off for new and returning players. You guys have forgotten to have fun and have let this game turn into a full-time job. Y'all are too dang wrapped up in who is a spy or who changed their callsign and who did what when. It's downright childish for grown men to act this way. Integrity is more than just a word, and it starts at home.

If I were brand new and seen some of the downright nasty remarks on this bbs, I'd run away as fast as I could and never look back. The MA is 100 times worse, especially on 200. I fly under a different callsign every tour for this very reason. I love the game, but the biggest majority of players now have no manners, respect, sportsmanship or integrity anymore from what I'm seeing. It's a shame and I hate seeing it. I reckon all or most the fun players that played for the pure love of the game and played fighter pilots have either retired or have died off.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2025, 08:05:07 AM »
Theres a difference between natural occurrences in the MA like ganging unfortunately. I dont even think the ganging is about score. Its just what untrained people do naturally. Its more about getting the kill in lights. Another reason I dont care for the kill count showing for every kill. While I know that ganging is the biggest issue, there is really nothing we can do.

But, I think a player trying to game positions using multiple accounts on both sides is more detrimental. We want bomber pilots to stay in the game. If they feel their positions are being given up in a non natural way. They wont waste their time flying an hour for a mission and thus no more bombers. I think many of them are already having a tough time fighting Tempest every time as well, but thats natural to the game. Just wish Temps had a higher perk. But if someone is gaming the overall strategy of the game by knowing all player positions, that's an unfair advantage and should be called out. I dont know how thats a turn off since we are trying to keep the gameplay somewhat natural. I know for me personally. If I found out many players were gaming my position every time I took off. It would force me to leave since the fog of war would be ruined. We either have a simulation of war strategy or we have a game of team death match.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2025, 08:37:28 AM »
Theres a difference between natural occurrences in the MA like ganging unfortunately. I dont even think the ganging is about score. Its just what untrained people do naturally. Its more about getting the kill in lights. Another reason I dont care for the kill count showing for every kill. While I know that ganging is the biggest issue, there is really nothing we can do.

But, I think a player trying to game positions using multiple accounts on both sides is more detrimental. We want bomber pilots to stay in the game. If they feel their positions are being given up in a non natural way. They wont waste their time flying an hour for a mission and thus no more bombers. I think many of them are already having a tough time fighting Tempest every time as well, but thats natural to the game. Just wish Temps had a higher perk. But if someone is gaming the overall strategy of the game by knowing all player positions, that's an unfair advantage and should be called out. I dont know how thats a turn off since we are trying to keep the gameplay somewhat natural. I know for me personally. If I found out many players were gaming my position every time I took off. It would force me to leave since the fog of war would be ruined. We either have a simulation of war strategy or we have a game of team death match.

These convos do more harm than what goes on in the MA. You guys are repeating sonething you don’t even know if its true. Mist of these post like this are the same. Ya have eli gated threads that stay for ever, all this cheating talk you don’t even know if its true, yhe viewer unknowingly thinks it is and leave. If they din’t have proof then shut it. If they do gave proof ut should go to GT not here.

Same thing same group on other subjects, conspiracy theorist with no proof at all, but yet argue and speak as if its true.

Excuse it away all you want, these hurt the base.

What happens in the MA scrolls away and out of subject in minutes, these here last forever.

These factless threads of cheating hurt the base.

The convo is cheating, yet not one slice of evidence to back it up. The power of suggestion does damage. Why cheating accusations were never allowed here.

No proof, shut it, if proof send to HT. Its stupid to do it here.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2025, 08:39:21 AM »
7- Cheating allegations or descriptions are not allowed. Email support@hitechcreations.com to report any issues regarding this. HTC permanently bans anyone caught cheating in Aces High. We take cheating and allegations of cheating very seriously.

Rules are made to protect the integrity of the game. People should read them again

Politics, same thing, shut it.only reason I even jump in is because of massively misinforming people where it doesn’t belong in the first place
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2025, 09:10:25 AM »
These convos do more harm than what goes on in the MA. You guys are repeating sonething you don’t even know if its true. Mist of these post like this are the same. Ya have eli gated threads that stay for ever, all this cheating talk you don’t even know if its true, yhe viewer unknowingly thinks it is and leave. If they din’t have proof then shut it. If they do gave proof ut should go to GT not here.

Same thing same group on other subjects, conspiracy theorist with no proof at all, but yet argue and speak as if its true.

Excuse it away all you want, these hurt the base.

What happens in the MA scrolls away and out of subject in minutes, these here last forever.

These factless threads of cheating hurt the base.

The convo is cheating, yet not one slice of evidence to back it up. The power of suggestion does damage. Why cheating accusations were never allowed here.

No proof, shut it, if proof send to HT. Its stupid to do it here.

You are  out of line. I will call out clowns becasue I know it damages gameplay far more than a forum post that 10 people come to. And if people think they can come to this game and abuse the gameplay and concept of the game, they are going to get called out. I and others will not stand for it. Its not about you.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2025, 09:24:09 AM »
You are  out of line. I will call out clowns becasue I know it damages gameplay far more than a forum post that 10 people come to. And if people think they can come to this game and abuse the gameplay and concept of the game, they are going to get called out. I and others will not stand for it. Its not about you.

I am not out of line, this thread us. You want to keep doing what pushes people away. Same as ppl who justify ganging. Fact is these threads should be locked via #7.

No it doesn’t work that way to call people out,90% of the time there is no evidence to back up one word. You are doing the exact opposite #7 was made. The rule itself and those in every game that makes it agrees with me/us.

I am NOT out of line, this thread and those like it are. In the past you start this thread you get hand smacked.

I was a mod/ga/tech, this would be shut down because the rule exist, fir a reason. Just accusing someone violates it. Some of you think rules and common logic only applies to others.

I stand by my words, it won’t change. It hurts us but being heard is more important to some.
Mits all about numbers out of ine side of the mouth, and everything that chases them away out the ither sude of the mouth. You cannot have both, unless numbers don’t really matter.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2025, 09:32:36 AM »
I am not out of line, this thread us. You want to keep doing what pushes people away. Same as ppl who justify ganging. Fact is these threads should be locked via #7.

No it doesn’t work that way to call people out,90% of the time there is no evidence to back up one word. You are doing the exact opposite #7 was made. The rule itself and those in every game that makes it agrees with me/us.

I am NOT out of line, this thread and those like it are. In the past you start this thread you get hand smacked.

I was a mod/ga/tech, this would be shut down because the rule exist, fir a reason. Just accusing someone violates it. Some of you think rules and common logic only applies to others.

I stand by my words, it won’t change. It hurts us but being heard is more important to some.
Mits all about numbers out of ine side of the mouth, and everything that chases them away out the ither sude of the mouth. You cannot have both, unless numbers don’t really matter.

Okay and where is any proof that this runs players away? Who has left the game becasue of this post? As far as im aware the player in question was exposed and closed their account which is actually good for the game since they are only using one account now. Same with huckster being called out who has changed his ways hopefully.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2025, 09:50:03 AM »
Okay and where is any proof that this runs players away? Who has left the game becasue of this post? As far as im aware the player in question was exposed and closed their account which is actually good for the game since they are only using one account now. Same with huckster being called out who has changed his ways hopefully.

Every-time you reprimand people with out even any proof you are telling readers cheating exist.

If we’re not going to use common logic I’m done here. The rule was written because it drives  players out.

I’ll just dump 35 yrs experience out the window

You guys promote the game.

I agree 100% with Uptown.

Why don’t you explain why you think the rule was written
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2025, 10:00:40 AM »
Every-time you reprimand people with out even any proof you are telling readers cheating exist.

If we’re not going to use common logic I’m done here. The rule was written because it drives  players out.

I’ll just dump 35 yrs experience out the window

You guys promote the game.

I agree 100% with Uptown.

Why don’t you explain why you think the rule was written

This is not a hacking accusation. This is a player gaming positions accusation. Ive determined by looking at their stats that they are more than likely the same person. Again they closed their account with no defending themselves. I would rather have bombers and strategic players in the game than a fighter gaming their positions and forcing them to leave which hurts the game far more.

But yes. This thread has ran its course and should end since the problem has gone away. Just note that some of us arent going to tolerate unfair gameplay manipulation.
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2025, 10:05:15 AM »
W.T.F. Ever
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Re: Cat7 vs SAAB. A history
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2025, 11:55:31 AM »

All of my fellow rook players try to take fields without a fighter cap or, when fighters show up, they scrape the enemy pursuers off on the M3 bringing troops.   

The problem is one of competence.

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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2025, 12:54:31 PM »
Naw this is the right thread. The OP doesn't like being confronted during his factory attacks and he's concerned it the same guy under a different name. Why care about that stuff, if not about messing up his milk run score sheet?

But my deeper point being, that is this thread is more about the attitude of a lot of players now. You talk about keeping the integrity of the game but what about the integrity of the players playing this game? Just a couple of posts above this one they're talking about 5 on 1 being a common and even expected thing. Where's the integrity there I ask? Everyone claims they're a big bad fighter pilot yet most fly in packs like a bunch of wolves like they did something. How about 2 go in and the other hold cap or something? But no it takes 7 Spitfires to kill a P40 now I guess.  :rolleyes:
Everyone claims they want a fight, yet the OP seems concerned he keeps getting one. No, it's not about score. It's about egos and dislike for one another with this player base. It's a huge turn off for new and returning players. You guys have forgotten to have fun and have let this game turn into a full-time job. Y'all are too dang wrapped up in who is a spy or who changed their callsign and who did what when. It's downright childish for grown men to act this way. Integrity is more than just a word, and it starts at home.

If I were brand new and seen some of the downright nasty remarks on this bbs, I'd run away as fast as I could and never look back. The MA is 100 times worse, especially on 200. I fly under a different callsign every tour for this very reason. I love the game, but the biggest majority of players now have no manners, respect, sportsmanship or integrity anymore from what I'm seeing. It's a shame and I hate seeing it. I reckon all or most the fun players that played for the pure love of the game and played fighter pilots have either retired or have died off.


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