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Offline AKcurly

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« on: April 02, 2002, 03:40:01 PM »
I just received private e-mail from IEN notifying me of an upcoming WB3 scenario.

I have never had an IEN account.  How do you suppose they got my e-mail address?  Spamming scumbags. :mad:

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2002, 03:51:21 PM »
Same here. But I have had an account.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2002, 03:51:23 PM »
Did you download and play during the "free" trial?

Your son is a lawyer... maybe he gave them your e-mail addy.

Just a couple of ideas to help you out.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2002, 03:59:29 PM »
Shouldn't there be a line "If you don't wan't to receive crap like this anymore please send reply to___" ?

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2002, 04:02:19 PM »
I got the same e-mail.  It was addressed to an old account (which is now dead except for the forward; the machine is in my ex-house attached to my ex-T1).  I suspect they dredged up every e-mail from every source they had.  

Like I said, I think WB is on the way out.  It's showing all the signs and symptoms.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2002, 04:05:27 PM »
heh, I get so much junk mail, this doesn't phase me a bit. I've gotten 12 junk emails so far today. Some tards got me on a list somewhere. Guess it goes with having the same email addy for 6 years.

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2002, 04:07:10 PM »
FYI Staga.  Never reply to SPAM that asks you to for cancellation.  Spammers use that as a tool to gather real email addresses to sell to others.  The best way to get more SPAM is to respond to it.  99% of spammers do not know if the emails they send reach a target or not, unless you respond to it.
Once you respond to it, you belong to them for life, or until you change your email address.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2002, 04:08:43 PM »
Wasn't there a spam law on the hill a year or so ago? What happened with it?

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2002, 04:23:38 PM »
Some arsewipe republicans thought that it would be infringing on free speech. funny how its all about freedom when corporate america is involved....

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2002, 04:28:40 PM »
It actually died hblair.  It really didn't have any teeth in it anyways.  
Congress has a problem they cannot resolve due to ignorance on thier part.  You see, it is legal for anyone to send regular postal mail advertisements to anyone in the U.S.  Spammers have been using that as a basis for what they do, which is what trips up Congress.
Congress has no idea how much it costs companies, like AppLink for instance, to maintain email servers and upgrades to those servers so real email can get delivered with the SPAM going on.
In my little part of the Internet, I have to have twice the email server capacity to make sure legitimate email gets delivered in a timely manner due to the amount of SPAM the server has to handle.  SPAM costs me real money.
The other point is really quite simple.  The U.S. Post Office makes money on the delivery of advertisements to your post box.  Companies have to pay to send the stuff out.  Spammers only have to pay the local ISP for a connection.

Spammers regularly commit fraud, but will go unpunished as it requires intervention of the State Attorney General, and (at least in Texas) the office will not do anything as the time it takes and costs in prosecution does not warrant thier committment.
Of course, proving someone has used an ISP service for spam is another problem.  ISP's only have logs of email transactions.  These logs could be easily manufactured and any defense attorney worth his salt will use that as a defense.

It would be really rather easy to shut down SPAM on the Internet, but it would take a global effort by all ISP's to do so.  2 lines in an access list in a router would almost stop it all.  One to prevent access to any remote SMTP server and the other to allow only local SMTP servers to deliver email.
I have declared war on spam, much to the chagrin of many of you.

I have no desire to block legitimate email.  As such, if you get a bounced email message back from HTC/AppLink with "Access denied", please post your SMTP server name or IP address in the Internet Forum.  I will work with you to make sure your email gets delivered.
A tip:  Do not use free email services, unless it is Yahoo or Hotmail.  These two services will block spammers.
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2002, 04:35:45 PM »
Did'nt they mass mailed Airwarrior users when that went through the hoop?

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2002, 05:14:23 PM »
Oh, didn't I tell you?  I gave it too them.  Gettin you back for your April Fools joke.  

I also signed you up for MSDN, got you a subscription to "Microsoft Systems Journal", "VB Magazine",  and subscribed you to a couple of Bill Gates fan club email lists.

Oh, and I think you're a WWIIOL beta tester now too.

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2002, 05:17:37 PM »
Yeah, like all of you, I receive lots of spam.  Some of it occurs because we purchase items via the internet.

I'm pretty much immune to receiving spam from abc@xyz.com who wants to sell me a self-improvement course (or whatever.)

What really pisses me off is that 1) IEN is a legitimate business competitor of HTC, 2) no one in my family has ever had a WB account.

Therefore, there is exactly one way for IEN to have my e-mail address: They have been harvesting e-mail address from this BBS and that really pisses me off for some reason. :)

curly

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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2002, 05:20:35 PM »
Hmmm do you CM guys havea mailing list going?

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2002, 05:38:28 PM »
i got that same mail on three account my personal which I only use for family stuff.

@hotmail  which I use if I expect to get a bunch bullcrap

and @fw-190 which I used for most of my gaming and had used at wb.