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Offline Steven

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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2002, 08:45:02 PM »
My understanding is that the A6M5 had armor for the pilot and fuel tanks so it was heavier and also had a shorter wing so it rolled faster than the A6M2 and could dive at a faster speed.  It had a more powerful engine and had a higher top speed as well.  However, even though the A6M2 rolled more poorly than the A6M5, the A6M2 was more manueverable being lighter overall.  

I really enjoy this site's information on the Zeke variants (almost known as the "Ben" or "Ray".)  

http://www.kotfsc.com/aircraft/zero.htm

I had a tough time fighting a Zeke today in AH and can only imagine the maneuvers an A6M2 will make.  However, it better be a pretty flimsy aircraft.

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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2002, 06:11:33 AM »
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Originally posted by Sikboy


Ummm. Maybe not to all Japanese?
Glad to see that you're fine with it though.
Really people, how hard is it to type those 5 letters? I never used to do it either, until a Japanese friend told me that it bugged him. So I switched. But that's just me.

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Sorry to offend the entire Japanese people :o  . But it's still acceptable to me and yes i'm fine with it. If it bugs them that dang much i will write it all out and keep threads like these from  ever gettin' started. sorry guys
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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2002, 08:54:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Viper17
We should have everything in the movie Midway.

Aichi D3A2 "Val"
Nakajima B5N2 "Kate"
SBD Dauntless
PBY-5 Catalena
B-26 capable of carying torpedo
early Zeek

Would be nice:D :D


don't you actually mean f6f's and at6-texans?

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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2002, 11:58:45 AM »
"Basically, you have differing types of aircraft in each *hemisphere*. LW was NA and Europe and Med and all those others (but basically European combatants.) "

What about the Spits, Seafires, Hurri's, Mossies and other "ETO only" types, Steven?

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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2002, 04:21:28 PM »
oxman you better be Japanese, it's like saying "The Porsche is too uncomfortable" without even sitting in one.

My classmate said "Jap'" in one of his reports and the teacher had to tell him that it was disrespectful to say that

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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2002, 08:24:57 PM »
Seeker,

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I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I used the word "generalizing" so many times...to nitpick like that isn't fair. I don't believe I ever said "only types", and if I did, it was a slip-up that should've been easily recognized due to my normal use of terms of generalities.  I still consider that most aircraft were either predominantly in one "hemisphere" (Euro vs Euro combattants) or the other "hemisphere" (battles of the Pacific and Pacific Rim.)  Also, you probably didn't clue onto the fact I purposely left the Brits out by name in my posts.  

Basically, look at this page and run through each aircraft and tell me if it flew in one *hemisphere* more than the other or if it was even among my two defined *hemispheres* of war and tally up your results.
http://members.cox.net/barking.pig/fighters.htm

Sheesh, man oh man.
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« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2002, 09:02:08 AM »
I'll take it under advisement

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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2002, 10:15:38 AM »
Nice page, hadn't seen that one before..

However, of all the planes shown on it, the only ones which should be limited to one hemishpere or another are German and Italian.

The Brits, then, as now, were everywhere.

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« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2002, 09:53:35 PM »
Seeker, you can't read.  Who said "limited"?  I stated that these aircraft were "predominantly in one hemisphere or the other."  The problem with the British is that they basically used the same airframes everywhere they fought whereas the USA had specific aircraft which were predominantly in one hemisphere or the other.  So to make a good Pac set, you'll need the Corsair, Hellcat, Wildcat and P40 but you wouldn't include those in a good Euro plane set.  Can you imagine no P51 or P47 in a Euro set because AH built up USA Pac first and people felt we had too many USA aircraft already when comparing to the LW or Russians and we tried to make the numbers exactly even between combattant countries?  I've made an "abundunce" point in previous posts because yes, there were some Martletts (Wildcats) in Europe and there were some P51 and P47s in the Pacific, but (at least with the 51 and 47) were predominantly European at least until very late.  (Predominantly means a greater amount, not all.)  My original point was that it isn't quite fair to count all USA aircraft across the board when they compare to say LW or Russian because they didn't fight in both...well, Theaters?  Hemispheres?  Naval vs Land?  I hope this is at least clear.   I would say it is only fair to complain about an abundance of one country's aircraft in the game if you keep the fact in mind the USA was in the two Hemispheres basically using totally different aircraft at the core in the two Hemispheres.  Don't count the Corsair against LW aircraft but you can against Japanese aircraft.  Since the Spitfire fought in both "hemispheres", that problem is basically solved and that's a big reason why I wasn't including them in a lot of my posts.

Anyway, my knowledge of British Pacific operations is lacking and you'll be able to give me lessons on that subject any day.  I don't discount your being very, very knowledgeable.  Oh wait, by "Pacific" I mean Southwest Pacific, Indo-China, Aleutians, Kurile Islands, etc....

[edit], that's some of my worst writing but I hope it conveys the message.  I'm too tired from the seminar I'm currently at and gonna leave my jumbled description as-is.   I'll leave this post alone now too.  Take care.
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« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2002, 04:24:34 AM »
You wouldn't include the P40 in the Euro set? Any particular reason why?

And I can quite easily imagine a ETO set with no American iron. There wasn't any for a couple of years.

But it would make as much sense as leaving the RAF and RAAF out of the PTO, wouldn't it?