Author Topic: Time for the Brewster? (Read 9345 times)

julle · « **Reply #30 on:** May 03, 2002, 03:19:09 AM »

"Was a Buffalo more manouvreable than the Hurricane, or superior in any other way? -Vladd"

According to FAF pilots the Brewster was TOTALLY superior compared to VVS hurricane I´s and II´s.

julle CO =Flak Panzer Oilers=

P.S. WTG and thumbs up for you guys getting the BW in AH!

Grendel · « **Reply #31 on:** May 03, 2002, 03:42:29 AM »

A big YES for Brewster. Notice, B-239 is not Buffalo. It is Brewster!

Hurricane versus Brewster, by Hans Wind:

The easiest one to shoot down of the enemy fighters is the Hurricane. It is totally helpless against us below 3,000 meters. It is slow and very clumsy and unmanoeuvrable. Whenever you meet a Hurricane, engage it in a turn-fight, where it is totally at our mercy. It is best to shoot this plane in the forward part of the fuselage when it almost immediately bursts into flames.

The Hurricane and Spitfire are slow and clumsy fighters at low altitudes. They seek dogfights at high altitudes (over 5,000 m.) where their characteristics are extremely good. Used these days as night-fighters by the enemy. The Spitfire is faster than the Hurricane.

Reference:

Hans Wind's lectures about air combat tactics, 1943: http://www.compart.fi/icebreakers/WW2History.html

Elk · « **Reply #32 on:** May 03, 2002, 04:35:26 AM »

Quoted with permission:

"Brewster Model 239, the most successful fighter aircraft in the history of aviation.

-It has the best exchange ratio, 38:1 (air to air killratio)
-It produced 1.3 aces from it's pilots per each airframe built
-It has the highest scoring single airframe known in history, 41 kills for one airframe.
-The highest scoring non-german fighter ace made almost half of his kills with it.
-Was in operational front line service from 1940 to 1944."

Elk

Jakke · « **Reply #33 on:** May 03, 2002, 05:11:17 AM »

I put my name in list too

illo · « **Reply #34 on:** May 03, 2002, 05:27:31 AM »

Agreed. 10000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000%

Hortlund · « **Reply #35 on:** May 03, 2002, 05:43:23 AM »

Yeah, alright, I'll put my name here too.

Out of curiosity, what aircraft did the Swedish volounteers fly? was it this one?

Grendel · « **Reply #36 on:** May 03, 2002, 06:02:29 AM »

The Swedish volunteers flew in Winter War.

They were equipped with Gloster Gladiator fighters and Hawker Hart bombers.

See:

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/f19.htm

http://www.tendens.se/nicolas/

julle · « **Reply #37 on:** May 03, 2002, 06:16:20 AM »

Hortlund U are a swedish layer and don´t know this?

NO offence intended!

Skål, julle

RBug · « **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2002, 06:28:50 AM »

Innnnnnnn!!!!!!!

Hortlund · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2002, 06:31:47 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by julle
Hortlund U are a swedish layer and don´t know this?

NO offence intended!

Skål, julle

Yeah, well, contrary to popular belief, they dont teach us stuff like that at lawschool.

MrAnza · « **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2002, 06:33:58 AM »

I add my vote.

Anza

julle · « **Reply #41 on:** May 03, 2002, 08:45:25 AM »

Well... I thought that as you were a layer you would be perseverance enough to do some backround research in WWII history. Unlike most of the "SIM" dweebs that run to play straight from the commando comics. Especially since this particular part of WWII history involves your motherland...

That´s all...

Den glider in i mål igen, julle

LLv34 Jarsci · « **Reply #42 on:** May 03, 2002, 08:51:15 AM »

count me in.

Hortlund · « **Reply #43 on:** May 03, 2002, 08:57:57 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by julle
Well... I thought that as you were a layer you would be perseverance enough to do some backround research in WWII history. Unlike most of the "SIM" dweebs that run to play straight from the commando comics. Especially since this particular part of WWII history involves your motherland...

That´s all...

Den glider in i mål igen, julle

Motherland sounds awfully Russian somehow...

ANYWAY

I could do some reading up on the subject, check various sources etc
OR
I could just ask here, and get a reply that I can be fairly sure is both accurate and detalied...

I guess I'm just lazy...

Charge · « **Reply #44 on:** May 03, 2002, 12:30:04 PM »

I want my Brewster!

If it was not mentioned the model exported to Finland had less HP than the later model and was thus lighter, and it was more maneuverable too, which may explain partly why the Finnish Brewsters were more successful than others and were considered very agile aircraft.
However, despite its agility, The Finns had to use pendulum tactics against some Russian planes as I-16s and I-153s which were slower but more agile still than the Brw.

-Charge+