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« on: July 15, 2002, 12:35:26 PM »
Morning Rip!  :D

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2002, 12:39:38 PM »
LOL!  You would NOT believe what I was just reading, about the BMW winning the engine-of-the-year again for a 8th straight year when I glanced up from my mid-morning break to read this!

(BTW, I agree with you in some area's, the "paint" on them is not up to USA standards, it chips very easy, and the Glass on BMW's are inferior to USA standards as well, lots of pitting.)

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2002, 12:47:44 PM »
Well glass is not too hard to replace.  And I've seen pitting on lots of cars, especially ones that drive fast in dusty areas with lots of small rocks.
And pretty much all cars have problems with paint chips from rocks.
Again, especially if you drive fast.
That's what touch up paint and bras are for.

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BMW winning the engine-of-the-year

Who gave that award and for what engine?  In terms of power per unit displacement and reliability they are good but not the best.  And obviously they are expensive motors.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2002, 12:48:16 PM »
Hey.. I drive a BMW too!  Its just not as mid-life crisis as Rip's.

The paint on it was quite nice and its a strange combination of hi-tech and K.I.S.S.  The body panel fits were excellent.

Now.. you wanna talk Audi and I can give ya an earfull.

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2002, 12:50:00 PM »
BTW... I've seen bras on autos do much more damage than any rock chips could do.  Plastic hood contoured bug deflectors seem the way to go.

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2002, 12:53:03 PM »
You can't drive around with a bra on all the time.  But if you are taking a long highway trip it's a good idea to put it on.

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2002, 01:04:23 PM »
I can't believe it took Rip 4 minutes to respond to Funked's original post.  He must have been in the loo. :D

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2002, 02:00:28 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
Who gave that award and for what engine?  In terms of power per unit displacement and reliability they are good but not the best.  And obviously they are expensive motors.


Expensive?  BMW325i start at $27,100, thats cheaper than Lexus, Mercedes, Volvo  or other luxery class autos in the same classification ;)

What engine(s)? 2.5-3.0 liter class, the 3.0-4.0 liter class, and the 4.0 and above liter class. :)
Ref: http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheyear/categories.html

Here's the award report:
International Engine of the Year Award

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BMW walked off with the International Engine of the Year Award, and would have done so even if its main contender hadn't been considered, because the Munich company also provided the overall runner-up. In fact, as well as taking the Best New Engine of 2001 prize, BMW won three of the other ten classes in the competition, and in most of the remaining ones it wasn't represented anyway, not being in the appropriate market sectors.

The presentation dinner on June 20 was held, ironically enough, in Stuttgart, home of BMW's principal rival. There were no gongs this year for Mercedes-Benz.

A panel of 38 motoring writers from Europe, North America, India, Japan, Australia and New Zealand took part in the voting, which was organised by Engine Technology International. They gave the rousing 343bhp BMW M3 engine 156 points, with the 1.8-litre Valvetronic engine from BMW's Hams Hall plant in the Midlands runner-up on 140. That ingenious new design will be seen in the 316ti Compact, soon to go on sale.

Third, on 135 points, was the Volkswagen Group 1.4 TDI pump injector turbo diesel, as available in the Polo, Lupo, Audi A2 and Seat Arosa. A score of 126 points gave fourth place, and the one-litre class win, to the three-cylinder Honda IMA engine fitted to the hybrid Insight. It also took the fuel economy award.

Ferrari's 5.5-litre V12, used in the 456M and the 550 Maranello, was judged best engine over four litres.

BMW's classic and now versatile straight-six design used in the Z3, 330, 530 and X5 model ranges - saloons, roadsters and 4x4s - won the three-litre class.

The 2.5-litre prize went to the new PSA particulate-filter 2.2-litre HDi turbo diesel available in the C5, 406 and 607. Honda's super-high-revving S2000 sports car engine, able to sweep easily past 9000rpm, took the two-litre award.

Saab picked up the Best Concept prize for the very ingenious SVC variable compression ratio engine, claimed to combine the power of a three-litre with the economy of a 1.6.


BMW 3-litre (Z3, 330, 530, X5)    162
BMW diesel 2.9-litre (330d, 530d, X5) 149
Mercedes-Benz diesel 2.7-litre (C-Class, E-Class, ML) 85
Honda 3-litre V6 (Accord Coupé, Odyssey, NSX) 66
Subaru 3-litre (Legacy Outback) 60
Volvo 2.8-litre (S80 T6)  57


See a slight disparity between the points on BMW's top two contenders and MB? :)
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2002, 02:05:33 PM »
Blimey Rip, is it possible for you to let a BMW ragging thread slip past?  Ever?  Maybe?



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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2002, 02:07:00 PM »
Funked asked me for the link! :)

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2002, 02:17:04 PM »
Ahh OK makes more sense now.  Funny how the manufacturers and their fansites will spin this kind of thing.

http://world.honda.com/news/2002/c020515.html

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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2002, 03:00:14 PM »
Wouldn't you rather have one of these rip?


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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2002, 03:11:07 PM »
For Daily commuting? NO!  In exchange for our Ford Explorer? YES! :)

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2002, 03:14:13 PM »
Do you guys think I went to far on my after-market mods?

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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2002, 03:52:04 PM »
It's not the quality of the BMW paint who's inferior to American standards, it's the quality of American roads who are inferior to European standards.:p

BMW, to start to have fun you need to hit in the specially prepared ones like M3s or Alpines. The standard BMW is like a P47 with a T6 engine. It's good for chick hunting but the fun factor is limited.
Dat jugs bro.

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