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Offline HiJack

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2002, 10:12:42 PM »
Oh ya Daddog was a pleasure meeting you and the other Mongrels at the con, had a great time.

Offline WildBlue

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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2002, 07:40:15 AM »
Yup, as everyone else has said, the CT has a better quality of player, period. Call me "elitist" (yup, guess I'm one of those, lol) but every time I wander off into the MA I'm quickly reminded of why I love the CT. Sure, each side has it's gripes (like those dang bulletproof wildcats, hehe), but we all eventually work it out. I couldn't pick any single players to make a list, the CT as a whole would be less without any one of them. We are all in there together, time and time again... for each setup... and there is an unspoken respect for ANYONE who flies the CT regularly. all, and know you all have my respect.

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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2002, 10:57:30 PM »
Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.Had a good time though, still a much better arena. to those brave f4f pilots.Would like to see hellcat, they seem to be flocking to the zero making an unbalanced arena(well, tonight anyway). Great job with CT map guys,can't wait for Midway.:)
« Last Edit: August 13, 2002, 11:10:29 PM by Sixpence »
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2002, 08:08:22 AM »
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Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.  


Hmm I was in CT from 9:30 PM EST untill 11:30 PM EST. The first half hour was an Allied numbers advantage, then an hour passed with the numbers even. The last half hour I was on the advantage in numbers was with the Japanese. Excuse me Sixpence, but  the people flying Zero's in CT are not the same ones flying LA-7's in MA. Most of the people in CT fly Allied or Axis, and usually because of squadron commitments. There are a lot of people that will switch sides to even out numbers. In fact if you watched the text buffer last night it wasn't Zero pilots landing their kills it was F4F pilots landing the most. The A6m2 is hard to hit, but it's not uber by any means. I saw only 3 guys land kills in Zekes the first hour and a half. The last 30 minutes I was on a couple of guys landed big kill sorties in Zekes. Personally I hate the A6m2, it's prob my style of flying but i'd rather be in a Grumman of any type. Typical Zeke sortie for me is to fly to the battle spend 5 minutes flying in a blacked out state, maybe get one or two kills before I am out of cannon shells, then get whacked by some gentleman in an F4F or P-40, as I try to extend out of the battle. Saburo Saki I am not! Don't get me wrong it's a great plane for guys who know how to furball, but it's weaker than a popcorn fart in a whirlwind. One hit and if your not going down, you will be soon. I do like the Solomons map, and I hope in a few weeks there will be a 1943 set-up, with F4U1's P-40E's, F4F's, CV based F6F's,  some P-38s. On the IJ side A6m2's A6m5s, and Ki-61s.
You don't see too many people in the CT that fly just because a certain GREAT PLANE is in the set-up. Most of the CT population is dedicated to the arena and do everything they can to promote it, and help make it better. In fact four of us in the 27th Sentai left VF-27 to form a Japanese squad in CT because there was none before. While it's been fun  formin an IJ squad, VF-27 was a much better time for me personally. Sorry for the rant Sixpence I guess you hit a nerve bud. Try flying the zeke a few sorties especially against  880 Fleet Air Arm, or VF-27. I think you'll find it's more of a challenge then you give it credit for;)
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2002, 09:31:54 AM »
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Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.

I fly on the side with the lowest numbers, period.  When I'm on, in the eves PST the Allies have held a 2:1 or 3:1 advantage so I have been flying the Zero.  

The LA-7 to Zero comparison is rather weak at best.  The Zero is not fast, it is not tuff, it has a poor ammo load out and the early type 99's are hard to get hits with.  I'm not sure which of these you think might draw an LA-7 fan.

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Hey, Sixpence......
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2002, 11:46:22 AM »
Yep, I was there in the CT last night when you made the channel 1 comment about "hoards of Zeroes".  That "hoard" consisted of 5-6 Assassins, and one or two others.  At any one moment, we saw anywhere from 4-10 F4F's or P-40's, so the odds were pretty even most of the time.
As for the A6M2, well, we learned quickly last night that once the 20mm ammo is gone (and with such a short clip that happens really fast) you better RTB.  I had told my squaddies about a similiar experience several days earlier where I got behind a P-40 at d200-300 and all I had were the BB guns, could not hit the guy to save my life even at that close range.  
All in all, the A6M2 is potent, but not lethal by ANY means IMO.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2002, 12:45:56 PM »
posted by eddiek  "got behind a P-40 at d200-300 and all I had were the BB guns, could not hit the guy to save my life even at that close range."


     yup thats too far out i usually dont even think about fireing till inside d200 if I have time i wait till around d100 then the kills come easy and quick. problem is it takes a while to get in that posotion.

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2002, 12:48:59 PM »
Well, I was in today(whining about zeroes). And Dimmer offered to switch sides to prove the f4f was a better plane...........didn't happen. The zero prevailed rather easily. And history proved that,it's a fact.The zero was a far superior plane.Dimmer mentioned you need altitude with the allied planes(and he is correct, BnZ the way to go). But the name of the game is to capture fields, and that is done on the deck where the zero has the distinct advantage.And I like the territorial part of the game, it's the best feature if you ask me:D (although dogfighting is a blast),so you won't usually see me above 12k. And where I fly the f4f I reserve the right to whine about zeroes:p .I'm not saying flying the zero makes you a lesser pilot, just gives you an advantage...........kinda like flying an La7:eek:
And don't worry, ranting and whining are allowed here:D
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2002, 12:56:19 PM »
BTW, all that being said, I love the map and the arena. But i'm afraid a 1943 plane set may give too much of an advantage to allies. Maybe make some of the planes perk planes? Just a thought......And I still reserve the right to whine:p
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2002, 03:22:03 PM »
Whinning is fine, but i prefer dining, just ask Lowe, lol, 6ft 1in 285lbs you can whine alot at that size, guess i better diet, maybe my F4 would do better hehe!

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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2002, 04:04:55 PM »
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Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.


I fly the zero just about ever time it's available in the CT.  I don't believe I've ever once flown an La7 in the main.

I like the zeke 'cuz I'm a piss-poor b&z pilit and have better luck with the turn & burn.  That's about it.  The early model's loadout sucks big time, though.

I ran into you a few times a night or two ago.  You seemed to be doing just fine in the Wildcat -- particularly with the first-shot snapshots.  I think I had a screwy connection that night, but I'm sure at least some of it was ability on your part.  :D

As far as the side imbalance goes, it seems to ebb and flow these days.  Give it awhile, and it'll change.  For the cupla sorties I was on Tuesday nite, it was about 2:1 allied -- something like 30-16 at one point, as I recall -- but that started to even out as a few folks switched sides and others departed.  

Anyway, not really anxious to get into that debate again.  ;)

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2002, 05:27:10 PM »
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Whinning is fine, but i prefer dining, just ask Lowe, lol, 6ft 1in 285lbs you can whine alot at that size, guess i better diet, maybe my F4 would do better hehe!


Hell Hijacker I saw you do more BEERING than anything !:D

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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2002, 05:59:12 AM »
My doctor says it must be "cholesterol free dining":D
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2002, 11:17:57 PM »
I think the Wildcat and Zero are fairly evenly matched if you fly them right.  They are certainly both survivable.  I think the Zero is likely the better plane and in a true 1 vs 1 fight at co alt, I think the Wildcat pilot would have his work cut out for him.  The key is to not ever allow yourself to get in this situation.  Captain Jimmy Thach proved that the Wildcat operating in pairs can handle the Zero fairly easily.  With an alt advantage you can control the fight as well.  On the other hand, if you are in a Zero, you can usually foil the shot of the Allies until they are frustrated enough to start turning with you, then they should die.  

The first night I flew in this setup, I entered to find that there were 5 allies and only 1 IJN.  After a few missions as Ally, I started to feel sorry for the poor Zeke that the 6 of us were competing to vulch, and I switched sides.  I rarely switch sides to even the numbers because I am in an Allied squad, but this seemed to be the right thing to do this time.  I was stunned by the dogfighting ability of the Zero.  I shot down 2 enemies on my first hop, 4 on my second.  On about my 4th mission, I landed 8 kills.  Most of these were against Wildcats, although there was the occasional P-40.  At the end of the night, I had shot down roughly 25-30 enemy aircraft, and only been shot down maybe 5 or 6 times.  

Tonight was our squad night, so I was wondering how I would fare against the seemingly uber Zero.  To my surprise, I shot down 6 enemy aircraft on my first hop of the night, including 3 Zeroes.  Minutes later, on another mission, I shot down 2 more Zeroes and got assists on 2 others.  In 3 Wildcat missions I flew, I landed all safely (except for 1 CTD).  

My point is, you can survive and get kills in either aircraft if you fly it correctly.  In the Zero, never stop manouvering, conserve your cannon ammunition, and dont let target fixation get you.  Good marksmanship, and the ability to manouver well in a tight low speed dogfight, will get you kills.  In the Wildcat, dont let your speed decay, get good at crossing snapshots, and always have an escape route.  Dont try to turn inside a Zero, and be ready to extend when you can.  Try to engage with at least 1k of alt advantage, and work with a wingman.  

If you dont break these rules, you should survive.  The problem is its awful hard not to turn with that Zero for just one more second to get the kill on him, or to break off that Wildcat you are about to kill just because his wingman is saddled up on your 6.  

As far as the numbers balance thing goes, I have seen both sides with numbers advantage.  It ebbs and flows, and there is really nothing to be done about it.  Enough people usually switch to make things work, so its not too bad.

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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2002, 07:25:55 AM »
You right, eb&flo, more allies last night
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)