Author Topic: More reparation nonsense  (Read 3340 times)

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2002, 08:22:06 PM »
"Nation of Islam" now there is a name that must be every PR guys wet dream these days.

"Ok guys, lets focus on the good sides of Islam...not the suicide bombers in Israel or the mad afghans in the caves"

Offline 10Bears

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1509
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2002, 08:28:14 PM »
So three guys are sitting in a bar.. another one walks in and says "Hey I heard on the Rush Limbaugh show that racism is dead in America"

One fella at the bar said "Ah that's great! now what are the niggazs gonna complain about?"

Offline midnight Target

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15114
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2002, 08:28:29 PM »
Reparations for slavery is a stretch I'll admit. But there are many Black Americans living today who were harmed by racist laws and practices. Maybe that is where the emphasis should be placed.

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2002, 08:28:31 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Maybe African Americans are finally realizing they'll never get a fair shake in America from the white man so maybe they're saying OK, then pay me for the abuse of the past 400 years and I won't deal with you and you won't have to deal with me. Maybe they're tired of having to depend on white America for jobs and futures. Who knows? Maybe they feel like they're owed. Maybe they ARE owed.


And then the white man says: Yes..you are right...hmm...We dont have that kind of cash lying around in the White house though.  Here, let us give you a ride back to whatever country you want to live in. And let us pay you with these here fine stock options instead (modern substitute for glass pearls).

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2002, 08:30:47 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
Reparations for slavery is a stretch I'll admit. But there are many Black Americans living today who were harmed by racist laws and practices. Maybe that is where the emphasis should be placed.


OR maybe the emphasis should not be placed on some lawsuit at all...maybe..JUST maybe it would be better if everyone stopped trying to rip off someone through a lawsuit and instead tried to get on with their lives and make the best of it.

Offline Kieran

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4119
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2002, 08:30:56 PM »
Seriously, I am half Native American. What do I deserve for my trouble?

Offline midnight Target

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15114
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2002, 08:33:13 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund


OR maybe the emphasis should not be placed on some lawsuit at all...maybe..JUST maybe it would be better if everyone stopped trying to rip off someone through a lawsuit and instead tried to get on with their lives and make the best of it.


So, we shouldn't have paid reparations to the Japanese interned during WW2? Aren't you compasionate.

Sorry we screwed up.... you'll learn to live with it though. :rolleyes:

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2002, 08:33:36 PM »
Quote

Seriously, I am half Native American. What do I deserve for my trouble?
[/b]

How 'bout these stock options?

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2002, 08:38:49 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target


So, we shouldn't have paid reparations to the Japanese interned during WW2? Aren't you compasionate.

Sorry we screwed up.... you'll learn to live with it though. :rolleyes:


Why are you Americans so fixated with money?

Some day Midnight, you will realize that money does not heal wounds.

A broken bone...what is that worth? How do you value physical damage?

A rape...how much should the girl get in damages?

A survivor of the Holocaust?
"Yes, you lost your entire family and all your relatives, you were tortured and enslaved for 4 years...we are sorry, here is $1 000 000"  

There is no price tag on human suffering.

Offline midnight Target

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15114
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2002, 08:45:26 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund


Why are you Americans so fixated with money?

Some day Midnight, you will realize that money does not heal wounds.

A broken bone...what is that worth? How do you value physical damage?

A rape...how much should the girl get in damages?

A survivor of the Holocaust?
"Yes, you lost your entire family and all your relatives, you were tortured and enslaved for 4 years...we are sorry, here is $1 000 000"  

There is no price tag on human suffering.



True enough, thats why there is such a thing as Punative damages. But what I'm talking about is the replacement of lost property/ wages/ earnings/ etc. Those are money, and can be replaced with money.

Offline Elfenwolf

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1123
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2002, 08:50:30 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Kieran
Seriously, I am half Native American. What do I deserve for my trouble?


A spanking?

Offline Creto

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 55
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2002, 08:50:37 PM »
Put your PC dictionaries away will ya.  Open websters and read the deffinition of native and american.

My grandfather came to America from Kristiania, Norway in 1916 he was born in Norway that made him a native to Norway.   46 years later I was born in this country that makes me a native American.

Btw I consider myself an American not some pc norweigian or scandanavian american, I never been to norway.   Read the deffinition of caucasian I never been to any of those places either :)


If a survey asks I mark native american,  ruffles there feathers everytime.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2002, 08:53:57 PM by Creto »

Offline Elfenwolf

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1123
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2002, 08:54:12 PM »
How old was your dad when you were born????

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2002, 08:57:28 PM »
hehe

Offline Kieran

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4119
More reparation nonsense
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2002, 08:58:59 PM »
I'll see your spanking and up you a knuckle sandwich. ;)

I'm just fooling around, really. I don't expect a thing from anyone, never have. I just wasn't raised that way.

Now if Farrakhan had said "we need better education" or "we need more job opportunities", who could really argue? And, being Americans, if he could prove there was a disparity, then something should be done to bring about parity. No contest. That isn't the Nation of Islam doctrine at all, however. They are against integrating with whites, they do not consider whites equals, in fact, they are every bit as racist as the whites they deplore. Their request has nothing to do with dissolving those boundaries that separate us, they want to build their version of the Berlin Wall.

So, boiled down to its essence the request amounts to "gimme, gimme, gimme". It is throwing money at a group of people hell bent on soaking as much guilt and money from society as they can get, with absolutely no intention of giving anything in return. They don't want to be citizens. They don't have to be citizens, but they sure as heck aren't entitled to handouts without the responsibility to behave as citizens afterward.