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Offline Dux

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« on: August 30, 2002, 06:15:02 PM »
Hi all,
    Would you veteran TOD Frame COs care to share some of your experience and knowledge for the benefit of people, like myself, who would be willing to step up to the plate when the scheduled COs can't make it, but lack the first clue about what to do?

    What is the process that you go through? Any checklists? Things to avoid?

    I'm sure it's not rocket surgery, but where do you begin?

Thanks in advance
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2002, 06:29:13 PM »
Think big picture. Timing has won me a few frames.  Knowing what "squads" do "what" well helps.  I like to write down the squads I have availble with there projected numbers on a piece of paper. Then write down the AC types and restrictions you have available. Next, write down your objectives. Match it all up. Consider fuel consumption, time to target, escorts needed, bombs needed.  Include maps, and color coding for the real dense squad CO's (like swoop) when you sned out orders.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2002, 07:58:39 PM »
I don't see getting the orders out on time listed there ammo.


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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2002, 02:20:03 AM »
Getting the events web pages back up and running would certainly help with preparing the orders.

Maybe it's just me, but I spent a lot of time just trying to sort out who the squadrons were, numbers per squad, available aircraft, available ordnance, constraints, etc.

Is there a schedule that shows who the CO will be for a given frame? It would be nice to know in advance that I'm on deck. Sure... there was a message identifying the COs for BoB but it was buried here in the BBS. I missed that.

In retrospect, I should have told Skernsk that I couldn't do the CO job this week and that I could not find a stand in. There would have been a great rending and gnashing of teeth, but I'm certain the orders would have gotten out by Wednesday instead of late Thursday/early Friday.

I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the frame tonight. Hope it went okay.

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2002, 07:40:23 AM »
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Is there a schedule that shows who the CO will be for a given frame? It would be nice to know in advance that I'm on deck. Sure... there was a message identifying the COs for BoB but it was buried here in the BBS. I missed that.


That info was in this thread. It had drifted down to page 2.

Maybe the TOD CM's can email the FRAME CO the emails of the Squad CO's ?

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2002, 11:08:37 AM »
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I don't see getting the orders out on time listed there ammo.


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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2002, 12:33:49 PM »
Who are the Groverats? Did I leave someone out?

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2002, 04:40:55 PM »
If you keep that up ammo I will not have anything to insult you with. ;)

Jordi is right that information is posted here before all the TOD's giving everyone a week or more notice. As far as the web pages that exile is leaving up it is up to the Squad C.O.'s to keep that up dated.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2002, 06:01:25 PM »
On the web pages, I can see my own squad dossier... no one elses.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2002, 06:07:36 PM »
the one thing that is not visble, (at least I havent seen it) is squad strength.  Would be nice to have.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2002, 11:51:43 AM »
They usually include that I think in the roster breakdown, but Skernsk did this one and well, he sucks.

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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2002, 07:26:32 AM »
One bit of recommendation I have is never to micro-manage individual flights down to the "Fuel load out, Ord load out" level.  Squadrons generally know what the fuel requirement is, and once assigned a target, will bring the ordnance required to do the job.  Give em a target, assign them a plane type (with options if its available), and let them do their "squadron thang". :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2002, 07:04:15 PM »
No argument there Rip... I don't hand out ord/fuel assignments.  Instead, I make assignments based on the mission. It makes little sense to send an attack aircraft out on a strike mission if the scenario doesn't give you eggs. Little details like this can foul up a plan.

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2002, 03:14:47 AM »
Just jump into it, and ask under the way;).

The CO in the other squadron you wil become CO for is experince CO and wil be glad to help you under the way, inkl. me;) if you can call me a veteran CO :rolleyes: .

My advice, jump into it, and when you get your first CO orders, ask for help under the way and we wil help you.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2002, 07:36:25 AM »
One more piece of advice.

Always check the thread that the TOD CM posts as to who is assigned to what side, for example:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=62129&referrerid=3203

Then, go to either the Friday TOD Squad dossier or the Sunday Squad dossier and email the orders to each of the squadron CO's, the emails are on the lower left hand side of each respective squad dossier.  Below are the links to the squad dossiers and if you plan on being a frame CO in the future, I recommend bookmarking the links below.


Sunday TOD Squad Dossier and email lists

Fridays TOD Squad Dossier and email lists