Author Topic: Gun owners and non-gun owners... (Read 1675 times)

Nash · « **on:** October 30, 2002, 12:28:01 PM »

Just curious...

How many of you have had your home invaded when you were inside and could do anything about it?

I'm expecting BIG numbers here folks (by the sounds of things)... don't let me down!

Also, if this did occur, what did you end up doing about it?

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2002, 12:31:33 PM »

Once... but I couldn't get to my gun before my dogs got to the person stupid enough to try to get in my house through the back door.

I found his hat next to our fence.

AKDejaVu

popeye · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2002, 12:31:39 PM »

We had a bat fly into our living room once. One round of .22 birdshot probably saved our lives.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2002, 12:55:21 PM »

Here's a question to go with the one above...

How many people do not enter the house with someone in it because of the possible presence of guns?

AKDejaVu

Nash · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2002, 12:57:37 PM »

Nice try Deja...

Ok I'll bite though. Yes, this happened to me once. I wanted to break into a house but there was a big gun in the front window so I thought better of it.

batdog · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:02:50 PM »

People dont break in to people's home's when they're there. Its not a SMART thing to do. Now that being said MOST criminals arent to bright, but even they will shy away from indiv's who are armed.

The weapons at home are there to protect you while your home. If your not and they break in, steal whatever its not the end of the world.

Take away the weapons from law abidding citizens and leave them in the hands of indiv's who already have mastered the art of smuggling drugs/people etc into the nation and see what happens. We'll all be sitting ducks 24/7.

I love my few weapons. The ONLY way ANYBODY is going to take them away from me is by my demise. I know there are quite afew US Citizens who feel this way.

SOMETHINGS are worth dieing over.

xBAT

P.S. Also..in light of the successfulness of our drug policies, and whatever else we've decided to outlaw over the years I fail to see how ANY indiv w/half a bulb upstairs can think gun control is going to be the magic pill to fix all our problems.....

Reschke · « **Reply #6 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:10:16 PM »

Do you want to know about firearms for hunting and other recreational habits like sporting clays/skeet shooting or just plain home defense?

Simply because of the 4 12 gauge shotguns in the house three can be used in the narrow hallways between the front door and the bedrooms in the rear/upstairs. The 2 30/30 rifles and one .30-06 I have are simply not effective in a home defense role.

Curval · « **Reply #7 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:16:38 PM »

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Originally posted by batdog

Take away the weapons from law abidding citizens and leave them in the hands of indiv's who already have mastered the art of smuggling drugs/people etc into the nation and see what happens. We'll all be sitting ducks 24/7.

My goodness...Cremo called ME paranoid in the other gun post.

I guess everyone in Europe and the Carribean (where there ARE drug dealers and bad people too) should just lock their doors and stay inside where it is safe, for the rest of their lives given the lack of guns in general circulation.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #8 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:23:12 PM »

No Nash... I give you a nice try on trying to quantify something that is unquantifiable.

Deterance is imeasurable. If it works, nobody really needs to acknowledge that it does.

Instead... you choose to focuse on situations where deterence did not work... as if somehow that would make a difference.

Maybe you might want to try finding some statistics on burglaries/rapes/murders occuring in occupied houses across countries with/without gun laws.

What you are trying to do right now is simply cheesy.

AKDejaVu

Nash · « **Reply #9 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:26:21 PM »

My goodness...Cremo called ME paranoid in the other gun post.

Mmph... Bingo. I posted this directly after reading Creamo's post. Not sayin' y'all is, and not sayin' y'all isn't. The cases vary I suppose.

Still, I'm sincerely curious about how many people here have had their home invaded. Literally actually invaded neccessitating either of these two remarks: "Damn thank god I've got this gun" or "Oh toejam I wish I had a gun". I'm starting to think it must be a common occurance... It must be, right?

Btw... keep an eye on that popeye... he's a sleeper. He's got the stuff and one day he's gonna give the greats (such as Creamo and Elfennwolf imho) a serious run for their money.

Nash · « **Reply #10 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:27:39 PM »

Huh Deja?

It's you who tried to measure the unquantifiable. I simply wanted to know a very measureable account of who here's had their toejam messed with.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #11 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:28:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
I guess everyone in Europe and the Carribean (where there ARE drug dealers and bad people too) should just lock their doors and stay inside where it is safe, for the rest of their lives given the lack of guns in general circulation.

Nah, but they should know that whenever someone with a gun comes knocking at their door, they are pretty much oblidged to do what they are told... even if its just a matter of kneeling down in front of them.

AKDejaVu

Rude · « **Reply #12 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:31:22 PM »

Ya know what's great about America? You guys can bark about what you think is right and wrong and I can own a firearm.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #13 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:32:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Huh Deja?

It's you who tried to measure the unquantifiable. I simply wanted to know a very measureable account of who here's had their toejam messed with.

No nash... I was not trying to measure anything.

Its as simple as this...

You ask for something that is completely irrelivant to attempt to quantify something. The truth is, the only relevant data pertains to what does not happen... not to what does happen.

Once again... its irrelevant how many incidents happen in spite of deterance, its a matter of how many don't happen because of it. Fortunately, for the likes of you, it is immeasurable and thusly you can lable it irrelevant. I'll still maintain its the most relevant part of the equation.

AKDejaVu

Curval · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2002, 01:44:46 PM »

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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Nah, but they should know that whenever someone with a gun comes knocking at their door, they are pretty much oblidged to do what they are told... even if its just a matter of kneeling down in front of them.

AKDejaVu

But people don't come knocking at their door with guns...they are illegal.

Besides...I bite.