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Offline Samm

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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2002, 12:39:28 AM »
Considering the screams of "perk it " we've had to endure with the mediocre n1k2. Can you imagine the "perk it" hysteria when this bird is introduced ? People just hate competitive japanese planes .

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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2002, 01:08:54 AM »
Yeah it's a 400 MPH fighter with the turning ability of the Spitfire.  Of course, the Spitfire is itself a 400 MPH fighter so I don't see what the problem is  :)  

Compared to the Spit 9 the Ki-84 would be faster at low altitude, but it would have worse climbrate (especially at alt) and worse E-retention.  It also wouldn't dive as well.   Turning ability is VERY close to that of the Spit 9, a hair better or a little worse depending on which source you use.

Yes it's a good fighter.  But it's not "uber" by any means, and it'd make a GREAT addition to the AH MA.   It would also work wonders for the CT.


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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2002, 01:44:43 AM »
Ki-84 is one of the only planes I think there is left to add that people will actually fly in the MA.  Not because there are a whole lot of "Frank" fans out there either.

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2002, 05:18:11 AM »
Well I am a Frank Fan, I am also a N1K2-J fan but I hardely ever fly it, tooo dweaby, but then again I try very hard to stay away from those easy kill rides, spits, La-7 ect...

 I would love to fly it and probably be labled a dweab for doing so but what the h!ll:)

 I am almost 100% certain that No production Ki 84 entered service with the 30mm cannon as a standard feature, from all acounts I have seen save one(Buschells KI 84 book), this simply is not so, It is commonly held that he was in eror on this issue.

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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2002, 05:41:38 AM »
I'm a Frank fan , and an Oscar fan and a Zeke fan and a George fan too, however not flying it is one of a couple concessions I make to the vast hoardes of crybabies in AH. I hope we do get the Frank someday...looking forward to all the little girl squealing it will bring.

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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2002, 06:35:47 AM »
I would also really like to see it in AH; the sooner the better.

Nice post, Karnak.   :cool:

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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2002, 06:48:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
The best fighters of Germany, Italy, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States have all been added.  It is time for the Ki.84-I to be added to Aces High.


No, we need the G.55 "Centauro" for high altitude fights and the G.56 as a perk plane :)

And yes, bring the Ki-84. And a 1943-44 clipped wing Spitfire IX as well.
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« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2002, 07:39:45 AM »
Been wanting a KI84 in AH since I left (WB) years ago.

I would probably fly it almost exclusively.


A KI84 Dweeb.................  :)

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2002, 07:40:34 AM »
show me the shoki

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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2002, 09:13:33 AM »
show me the hayate

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« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2002, 09:32:05 AM »
ki84, p39, stuka, hienkel, p38 variants, etc etc (and what about those rockets on the f8)  people write about all the time asking for.  I have not been here too awfully long, but it seems more likely we will sooner get something we didn't know we wanted :)   It is all a mystery, but at least we will get something, and that is better than some other games that get nothing new at all.

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2002, 09:33:53 AM »
This is about the last glaring omission for the late-war MA. It was also one of my main rides in AW, so I would like to see the AH modeling in action on this bird. Everything else is frosting on the cake. Not that frosting is bad, I like frosting.

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2002, 12:18:39 PM »
You see people there is technical then there is Mitsu

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« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2002, 01:43:52 PM »
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Why Ha-45-23? Ki-84-I changed engine to Ha-45-21?


My information said that the Ha-45-21 was only used in the few produced Ki.84-IIs.  That's why I eliminated it from the engine list.


Mitsu,

Can you provide HTC with the flight performance data for the Ki.84-I using the Ha-45-21?

If so, that would be great.

As I understand it, the 392mph top speed is not nearly the best model.
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« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2002, 02:17:07 PM »
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No, we need the G.55 "Centauro" for high altitude fights and the G.56 as a perk plane :)

And yes, bring the Ki-84. And a 1943-44 clipped wing Spitfire IX as well.


The Reggianne 2005 would be nice to have as well!

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