Bring the Ki.84-I Hayate "Frank" to Aces High

[Kweassa]

Yeah it's a 400 MPH fighter with the turning ability of the Spitfire. Of course, the Spitfire is itself a 400 MPH fighter so I don't see what the problem is

 Hmm.. come to think of it.. I think you're totally right Somehow I pictured a "400mph on deck alts" fighter.. a La-7 that turned like a Spit..

[Tumor]

It's a love-hate thing.  I'd love to see this one in the game... I'm gonna hate it being there

Tumor

[Pongo]

The last campaign for a aircraft like this ended in the spit xiv and near endless whining by the person that fought for it.
hope this is different.

[moot]

but

Originally posted by brady
It has the same engine as the N1K2-J, I wounder If we get it neutered[...]

HT said himself there were never any changes to any FM or any other RL performance to fix gameplay.
Only thing I saw that was anywhere near fixing was something also said by HT about blast radii which went something like
"[...]blast radius was never (neutered), but object hardness increased[...]"; excuse the possible fault of memory.

What is curious is (for example) to all the Ta152's engine power BB debate, Pyro only commented on one of the supposed two boost systems.

[easymo]

"HT said himself there were never any changes to any FM or any other RL performance to fix gameplay"

lol.

[Slash27]

So does all our input for wanting this plane help us get it?

Just wondering if the large amounts of requests have gotten us a plane in the past.

[brady]

Ya, I beleave the post in the past contributed to planes like the , FW 190F8, A bunch of P47 varients, The Ta 152, ect...

  Their are a number of quiet obvious "game Play conschions in AH", the AA gunners on all the Vehicals, 50Cal. letahlity aganst GV's, Ship Damage model,Ect, they aint no Virgens in this Regard:), some are obviously nescessary, and certainly all could be debated till the end of time.

[Kaz]

let's get the Ki-84 and maybe down tweak the n1k2-j hanging on a single engine prop with no prop torque hmmm.. If it could do that in real life lemme know

[Karnak]

I challenge anybody to come up with an aircraft that will get used for as many hours per month as the Ki.84 will that is left to be added to AH.

Name an aircraft that would give a greater return on the work HTC puts into it that isn't already in the game.

And keep it real.  No suggestions of He162s or other obvious perk planes, and no aircraft that didn't fight in WWII.

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Karnak
I challenge anybody to come up with an aircraft that will get used for as many hours per month as the Ki.84 will that is left to be added to AH.
 

Yak3

[Lazerus1]

I still think the Re2005 should be added if late war planes from all countries are added. Sure, it had low production numbers and was used for a relatively short period of time, but it was the best Italy had to offer, it's within the time frame of the war, and was used by Germany after Italy surrendered.

If you argue the number of planes per country, then Italy has the fewest offered in AH at only two, and I'd be happy to see an Italian bomber be passed up for a late war Italian fighter. I'm all for another Japanese fighter, or a couple of new Jap fighters. I would just appreciate a little more attention to the other arm of the Axis powers.

And stat experts can give numbers saying how many were produced, how many were destroyed, and how many are unaccounted for, and thats not my point. It's just a request for even representaion for late war planes for all countries. I'll post the spec sheets I've found for the Re2005 tomorrow. There are several that give reduced stats for the plane, but the official numbers are available if you look a little harder. Some great pics out there too.

[Glasses]

The Ki-84 :

5 out of 5 Macross

Bring it to Aces High
Long over due and in need for my good friend Mitsu who has given so  much to the community.

[Karnak]

Fariz,

Yak-3 lacks suffient firepower.  That'd keep many out of it.

Lazerus1,

I agree that the Re.2005 of G.55 would make nice additions, much like the Ta152H-1 (which needs its GM-1 boost effect added), but like the Ta152 and unlike the Ki.84, they were not mainline fighters.

That is why in my opening post I stated that Italy already had its best fighter.  The C.205 was the best fighter Italy produced that saw substantial combat, and even that fighter was produced in less than 7.5% of the numbers of the Ki.84.

[brady]

While I wholehardedly Suport the adation of the Ki 84 we can not use production numbers to determine a planes adation to AH, their is no evedance that is is in any way a factor nore should it be. IMO The Re 2005 or the G.55 are Italys best fighters(s) and theirfore worth inclushion, not only for this reasion but because of what awsome planes they were and how much use they would also get, Besides Italy only half surendered in 43, those planes were used by the Itaians after Sept. 43 as well.

             

[Hristo]

Ki.84 will most likely see double the usage of Yak-3, IMO.

Let's have them both and compare .