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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2002, 03:13:43 PM »
can't figure out how to link the dam thing!

Its Title is "Rhodes Scholar"

Here is from Eagler - "Clinton has the lenses cap on his binocs, didn't take them off as he feared to look stupid during the photo op ... he succeeded didn't he "

How about AKDejavu - "At some point, anyone that's used binoculars tried with the lens cap on. Its just that most decided it would be more prudent to remove the lens cap than to sit there pretending they were off.

Its classic Clinton... more concerned with how he looked doing something than what he was actually doing.

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2002, 03:15:40 PM »
Heh, and Deja is not even a conservative! Shows you how pathetic he was as a Pres.  You should feel guilty for voting for him Midnight.

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2002, 03:16:51 PM »
Once again you have let the point go wafting well over your head Rip.

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2002, 03:17:21 PM »
If we had a picture of Nelson, Napoleon or Rommel forgeting to remove the lens caps I guess that would reasure everyone that the leaders of the free world sometimes forget to take off the lens caps on binos and it doensnt make them idiots.

Says alot about how anal the military is about using lens caps though...

There are special lens caps for image intensiflying sights and binos that just allow a pin salamander of light in so that they can be used during the day without getting total white out as they multiply the available light 40000 times or something like that. I dont think either of those sets are II though.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2002, 03:18:17 PM »
The statement on that article said that Clinton was posing for the cameras and chose not to remove the caps.

Its a classic Clinton photo-op that went slightly ary.  I still picture Clinton saying "But I looked Marvvvvvelous".  He was the best media player ever to sit in the office.  The press misses him.

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2002, 04:03:29 PM »
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He *is* stupid. :)



George W. Bush's educational credentials:

Undergraduate Education -
Yale University, bachelor's degree, history

Graduate Degree -
Harvard University, Master of Business Administration

I guess I don't understand how people draw such a conclusion about our President's intelligence, as he earned these two degrees at two of the most academically prestegious universities in the USA, maintaining a respectable GPA while doing it.  Then he went on and actually worked in the private sector, creating jobs and making money (what was Al Gore's profession before entering politics again?).  Disagree with Bush's policies if you must, that's all fine and dandy, but stupid?  Based on what?  Seems to me he's doing pretty darn good for such a dunce, eh?

I got a kick (during the 2000 elections) out of listening to liberals say, willingly parroted by the mainstream media, how smart Al Gore was and how mentally deficient George W. was.  Actually go look at the college and after-college records of these two men and then tell me who's smarter, who's more capable, and who's accomplished more in their lives thus far.  Most of those who make such statements as Nash (nothing personal, Nash), have fallen victim to the mantra-speak of the Democratic party machine.  Go research it, then make up your own mind for a change.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2002, 04:20:09 PM »
Tell ya what...give me an unlimited amount of funds...or just a few mill that I can use at my descreation, and a name that is politicaly as powerfull as 'Bush' and I'll show you a degree from ANY Ivy League facility in 4 or less years whether I have the ability or intelligence to graduate or not.

'sides, having a diploma from a prestigeous institution is no guarentee of intelligence.

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2002, 04:26:17 PM »
...anyway everyone knows the only quality academic schools in ivy league are Columbia & UPenn

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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2002, 04:35:18 PM »
Bush is not stupid, he is willfully ignorant.  There's a huge difference between the two - the former is almost sympathetic while the latter is simply pathetic.  Thanks to the mainstream conservative media and incredible image manipulation on the part of his handlers, Bush has become depicted as the straight shootin' cowboy out of Texas.  We ought to hold him to higher standards.

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2002, 04:37:38 PM »
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Bush is not stupid, he is willfully ignorant.  There's a huge difference between the two - the former is almost sympathetic while the latter is simply pathetic.  Thanks to the mainstream conservative media and incredible image manipulation on the part of his handlers, Bush has become depicted as the straight shootin' cowboy out of Texas.  We ought to hold him to higher standards.




 LOL that's funny.  I'd be willing to bet that he holds himself up to a higher standard.

 you bush haters crack me up, at least we had good reason to hate clinton.....

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2002, 04:40:05 PM »
Perhaps, MrLars, but it's certainly an indicator of potential, if not out-right ability.  By the same token, isn't it closed minded to assume that simply because he has a famous dad and his family is well-to-do that his degree was a give-me, and not earned?  That would be every bit as wrong as saying that any minority in a position of responsiblity only got there because of racial quotas.  Am I to undertand then that you also believe Mr. Gore's academic credential's to be equally worthless, as he also comes from a family of power and privalige?  Do we further assume that anyone with such a degree who was likewise blessed (or cursed) by a pedigree must be undeserving of that sheep-skin?  

Again, look at the whole man.  George W. actually worked in the private sector, putting those degrees to work, and with some measurable success.  Again I ask, what evidence (aside from the fact that he's of "the other political party), do so many democrats and liberals base their strident assertions that our President is a dim-wit?  I just don't understand, that's all.  I may not agree with every decision he makes, but I have a great deal of respect for him and his accomplishments.  I also believe he's a pretty bright guy...not omnicient mind you, but reasonably sharp over all.  And he was a F102 pilot:D.  Oh yeah...they only let idiots fly fighter jets;).
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2002, 04:43:05 PM »
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Perhaps, MrLars, but it's certainly an indicator of potential, if not out-right ability.  By the same token, isn't it closed minded to assume that simply because he has a famous dad and his family is well-to-do that his degree was a give-me, and not earned?  That would be every bit as wrong as saying that any minority in a position of responsiblity only got there because of racial quotas.  Am I to undertand then that you also believe Mr. Gore's academic credential's to be equally worthless, as he also comes from a family of power and privalige?  Do we further assume that anyone with such a degree who was likewise blessed (or cursed) by a pedigree must be undeserving of that sheep-skin?  

Again, look at the whole man.  George W. actually worked in the private sector, putting those degrees to work, and with some measurable success.  Again I ask, what evidence (aside from the fact that he's of "the other political party), do so many democrats and liberals base their strident assertions that our President is a dim-wit?  I just don't understand, that's all.  I may not agree with every decision he makes, but I have a great deal of respect for him and his accomplishments.  I also believe he's a pretty bright guy...not omnicient mind you, but reasonably sharp over all.  And he was a F102 pilot:D.  Oh yeah...they only let idiots fly fighter jets;).



 Well notice they didn't get into the real world private sector accomplishments.   Of course you can't expect somebody to fight to lose though can you? ;)

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2002, 04:46:23 PM »
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Tell ya what...give me an unlimited amount of funds...or just a few mill that I can use at my descreation, and a name that is politicaly as powerfull as 'Bush' and I'll show you a degree from ANY Ivy League facility in 4 or less years whether I have the ability or intelligence to graduate or not.

'sides, having a diploma from a prestigeous institution is no guarentee of intelligence.


Lanny Davis went to school with Bush and has said many times that Bush is not what the Democrats want him to be... stupid.. but then, Lanny Davis was a Clinton hack wtf does he know :)

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2002, 05:01:17 PM »
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And he was a F102 pilot:D.  Oh yeah...they only let idiots fly fighter jets;).


Ever been around fighter pilots?

Typically, the smart one was in the back seat. :D
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2002, 05:23:02 PM »
I have no doubt that Bush and Clinton are both very intelligent people. People slip in speeches all the time, I see a news anchor do it at least once a week for instance.

Clinton like Reagan were really good speakers as president, no doubt about it.

My biggest problem with Gore was his personality changes, very annoying at least be consistant.