Ok... first off... you are not gonna buy a gun with your name on it and then sell it to a criminal for 100 dollar profit... the paperwork costs that these days. And... you will get a record and then be unable to purchase a firearm but..
To summarize.... No one can prove that the ease of which firearms can kill (over other methods) contributes to a higher homicide rate... America has pretty much the same rate, higher than some, less than others if you remove the over 40% black on black killings in America.
firearms on the other hand prevent up to 3,000,000 crimes a year in the U.S. so they perform a very useful function besides the less tangible and less provable one of deterance agaisnst crime and tyranny.
so let's say that you may prevent a percent or two of homicides in the U.S. if you could make fierarms dissapear... the percent or two would be those ones that were "spur of the moment" "convient and easy" ones... I don't think more than t a percent or two of potential murders would say "oh... i don't have a gun.. I guess I didn't really want to kill that guy over the last beer if I have to use this baseball bat or crowbar or.... knife".
soo... u prevent a few murders and... at the same time about 3,000,000 crimes are not stopped anually by firearms.. plus... like in england... not only are they not stopped but... withourt the deterance...you get this crap.. (which get's us back to the topic)
"Alan Travis, home affairs editor
Friday February 23, 2001
The Guardian
England and Wales have one of the worst crime records in the industrialised world - even worse than America - according to the findings of an official survey published yesterday which compares the experience of victims across 17 countries.
The study, coordinated by the Dutch ministry of justice, shows England and Wales at the top of the world league with Australia as the countries where you are most likely to become a victim of crime. These countries face an annual rate of 58 crimes for every 100 inhabitants.
The findings, based on interviews with 35,000 people about their experience of crime across the 17 countries, were carried out last year. They are a blow to Labour's record and underline the challenge facing Tony Blair when he marks the launch of Labour's 10-year anti-crime plan next Monday by becoming the first serving prime minister to visit a prison.
The 2000 International Crime Victimisation survey shows that the falls in crime recorded since the mid-1990s in England and Wales are part of a general pattern of falling crime across the industrialised world but, unlike America, crime levels in England and Wales are still higher than they were at the end of the 1980s. When the survey was last carried out in 1996, England and Wales also topped the league table with 61 offences per 100 inhabitants.
The survey does show, however, that Britain has the best services when it comes to looking after the victims of crime, but it also shows we have a tougher approach to punishing criminals. Asked what should be done with a burglar convicted of stealing a colour television for a second time, more than 50% in England and Wales said he or she should be sent to prison for two years. Only 7% in Spain and 12% in France thought he or she should be jailed at all.
People were asked whether they had been victims of a range of 11 different offences in the previous 12 months, including violent and sexual assault, car crime, burglary and consumer fraud.
The survey also shows that Scotland, with 43 offences per 100 inhabitants, ranks joint fifth alongside America in the international crime league behind England, Australia, the Netherlands and Sweden. Northern Ireland has the second best crime record of the countries surveyed, with 24 offences per 100 inhabitants - the same rate as Switzerland and only just above Japan where the biggest crime problem is bicycle thefts. The detailed findings of the ICVS survey showthat England and Wales are top of the international league for car thefts with 2.6% of all car owners suffering the loss of their vehicle in the previous 12 months. In other sorts of car crime, England was second only to Poland.
Australia and then England and Wales had the highest burglary rates and rates for violent crimes such as robbery, assault and sexual assault "
the result of the backward thinking of the home office is the brutalizing of its helpless citizens... helpless to defend themselves against the strong and the vicious... a trajic example of "form over substance"... "let them eat cake" The lawless run england... In America... 3,000,000 such crimes are prevented by firearms each year... citizens have freedom and dignity one good thing about englands crime rate.... they have, obviously by necessity, learned to care for the traumatized, humiliated and injured victims...guess that's something
