Author Topic: Taxiing a damaged P38? (Read 741 times)

Bok · « **on:** December 17, 2002, 01:47:52 AM »

Hi all -

Just wondering if it is possible to taxi a P38 on one engine (both in RL and in the sim) - had damage and lost an engine while rtb'ing the other night - landed, overshot the runway and spent the next 10 odd minutes trying to get it back onto the runway - all I ended up doing was going round in circles, even with full rudder, left/right braking etc

Tried the same offline in a P38 and A20 - still no luck in a '38, but managed to get the A20 heading roughly in a desired direction?

Any help appreciated,
Bok

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #1 on:** December 17, 2002, 03:21:23 AM »

keep throttle low and use a lot of rudder to compensate for the turn on the powered side.

ack-ack

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #2 on:** December 17, 2002, 03:50:30 AM »

Prolly wouldn't work in real life from a dead stop, but maybe if you kept it moving.
DJ229

Dingbat · « **Reply #3 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:39:17 AM »

Tap the brakes on the side that the engine is running as you apply rudder too...

Bok · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2002, 10:13:26 AM »

Thanks for the replies -

Tried all the above, but still end up in circles - do the same in an A20, start slow, tap brakes on live engine side, full rudder, and can steer, hell , even take off on the one engine. P38 no matter how much I fiddle with tapping/holding brakes/throttle/rudder I end up spinning (to clarify 'end up in circles/spinning' - I mean I'm rotating on the same spot, not travelling in a circle with diameter, if u know what I mean..).
Sorry - don't want to waste anyone's time on this - just thought there might be a 'knack' to it - looks like if there is I sure don't have it !

Bok

Dingbat · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2002, 12:43:52 PM »

you might have found a bug, I'd post it in bug reports...

Zaphod · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2002, 02:36:03 PM »

I have done this from a dead stop on one engine by getting to very high speed in the circling then chopping throttle so that the engine isnt pulling you in circle while ruddering to correct. This will get you moving in a straight line again after which you can give the single engine some throttle again and compensate with rudder to keep yourself moving in a straight (or fairly straight line). It took me some time to get it just right but if your determined to successfully land you can do it. I have not been able to get enuff speed however to actually take off in a 38 on one engine.

Zaphod

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2002, 03:27:17 PM »

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I have not been able to get enuff speed however to actually take off in a 38 on one engine.

LOL In real life none of the twins in this game would be able to do that and they should be VERY difficult to taxi. In RL the multi-enginge aircraft here would require a lot of rudder inflight as well with one inop.
DJ229

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2002, 04:28:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Bok
Thanks for the replies -

Tried all the above, but still end up in circles - do the same in an A20, start slow, tap brakes on live engine side, full rudder, and can steer, hell , even take off on the one engine. P38 no matter how much I fiddle with tapping/holding brakes/throttle/rudder I end up spinning (to clarify 'end up in circles/spinning' - I mean I'm rotating on the same spot, not travelling in a circle with diameter, if u know what I mean..).
Sorry - don't want to waste anyone's time on this - just thought there might be a 'knack' to it - looks like if there is I sure don't have it !

Bok

Don't use to much power. Just give enough power to get your plane rolling and then use the rudders to compensate and you'll be able to taxi enough to a hard surface like the taxi-way or the runway.

Ack-Ack

qts · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2002, 02:51:18 PM »

I've successfully landed a Mosquito on one engine.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #10 on:** December 18, 2002, 08:05:40 PM »

What Ack-Ack said. From a dead stop, you aren't going to be able to taxi in a straight line, but if you land and end up off a paved surface, you should be able to to pirouette your way to a runway or taxi strip.

I find that with one engine, from a dead stop, I have to use the individual wheel brakes AND rudder in order to get the 38 semi-straight.

When landing with one engine, always shut off the remaining engine shortly before touching down to avoid torque problems when slowing to a stop.

Dux · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2002, 10:11:07 AM »

Guys, the P-38 has a steerable nosewheel... not a freely rotating caster tailwheel. It should keep the plane taxiing straight no matter which side the thrust is coming from.

Shouldn't it?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2002, 02:57:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Dux
Guys, the P-38 has a steerable nosewheel... not a freely rotating caster tailwheel. It should keep the plane taxiing straight no matter which side the thrust is coming from.

Shouldn't it?

Don't think steerable nose wheels are even modeled in here.

Ack-Ack

Starbird · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2002, 07:08:31 PM »

Did the p38 even have a stterable nosewheel?

b24, b29, p39 I dont believe had steerable nosewheels. I havn't seen anything that says the p38 does or doesn't.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2002, 01:52:49 AM »

P38 operating manual doesn't mention a steerable nosewheel.