i hope this isnt what we are comming to.

[Robert]

I recieved this mail from a squadmate. I think we all should take a look at it very close.


Hi,
 
I quit playing Aces High today (05/02/2001), because it's just a stupid game which
makes me aggressive. Lots of people on the message boards say Fighter Ace II is the
Quake of the Skies.... I think Aces High desserves the name.
 I am playing Sims for almost 3 1/2 years now, starting on Air Warrior II
on AOL and almost six months in Aces High now.
 
The reason I leave is, that this game just consists of gang banging other people.
To say the truth, in the six months I have been flying Aces High I have only seen
so many 1 on 1 fights like I can count on one of my hands. The rest were all,
all on one fight. 5 guys see a low Spit and every one hunts it down, yourself being
alone again and have to watch the five other unfriendlies above you, preparing their knives.
I haven't seen any real good fights in Aces High, every time I was going to see one, another
bandit joined the fight and Head On'ed me.
In the beginning I thought it was my setup and the way I handle the game, I tried to improve
myself, but I got shot down all the time in freaking situations where you just think how'd
he made that one. I even thought it was a problem with my ACM skills etc, but right now
I realized that this game doesn't need any ACMs, just some luck and a good connections,
so you can head on shoot the other away. Yeah I know I said once
Head Ons aren't that bad, but meanwhile my attitude changed, they're just for freaking
losers, who want to see Victory X by Callsign X of The X. Man Crap, I am flying a P-38
seeing a slower N1K2 on my six spray and pray shooting from distance 900ft and see my
whole tail falling off after one hit, that really sux after 30 mins of flight and look for a good
and at least fair fight.
 
Another reason I leave is the community of Aces High, maybe some people may have
recognized that I don't talk much on ch#1 and ch#2 or post messages on the bbs.
Every single word you write in Aces High is analized by those guys and seen in a negative
way, so people can start flaming you again or insult you. The 2 years I flew on GS and AW
i haven't seen so much people talking so much stupid stuff and getting personal in such
a way like they do it in Aces High. You can't even write Hello on ch#1 without being
attacked by some of those guys.
People calling other people cheaters, whiners etc, are the people I don't want to see
in a community since most of the people in AH are like that, I better leave because
I can't force 500 ppl to leave a game.
 
I had bad days in Air Warrior and I got over 'em, but I am having 3 bad months meanwhile
and that really sux, so I better leave. Maybe I gonna fly in the H2H Arena from time to time,
at least there people really fight instead of type wars. Probably I gonna fly in the MA one day
too, but this is place full of people who aren't old enough for the Kindergarten.
This is no offense against you guys, cause I know The Damned are civilized and have lots
of Cool Heads!!!
 
        Enjoy Aces High better than I do Guys...Have Fun
 
                            DmdCM/Chris


RWY

[Karnak]

 

I'm sorry that he had a bad time in AH.

Don't know what to say about the community though.  There are many people in the AH community who have very strong and very divergent opinions and many of us don't hesitate to press our view forward.

Mayhap we need to calm down and think about where the other guy is coming from.  Certainly the frequent accusations of "whiner", "cheater", "dweeb", "cheerleader", ect. doesn't help the environment.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Mosquito FB.MkVI Series 2 to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak

[bowser]

nm

[This message has been edited by bowser (edited 05-02-2001).]

[hblair]

Hope he changes his mind. Does he know you posted his email here?  

[Kats]

I've played all the simms as well and there is no difference in the on-line enviroment here. It just seems that memories are always fonder.

AH is very competative and filled with some really good pilots.....I can see it being frustrating for a casual player.

[Mr. T]

For his first reason for leaving.... uhm.........................

His second reason though has some merit. There's a lotta roadkill on the airwaves..... I tend to tune it out and play the game though.
-SW

[hblair]

SeaWulfe, that you??

[Mr. T]

No foo.. it's Mista T! The Inspecta Collecta sell out! My TV show got cancelled and I couldn't catch no other programs to get onto cuz Hannibal was on that jazz again and ruined my chances for being popula again!

Yeah it's me. :-)
The last UBB crash porked my UBB account and I don't feel like emailing Ronni to get it fixed.
-SW

[DeeZCamp]

I completely agree with Robert on what he said about the gangbanging tactic.  I feel it is kinda lame that if you happen to fight one on one with someone, 6 of his buddies have to come in and tango also. I mean It may be my fault for wondering into the enemy territory, but how lame or lack of challenge it is for 6 guys to take out someone when they are already engaged. The ACM "escape window doesnt really apply here because You wind up having 6 guys on you and no room to run. Now 2 even 3 guys would make sense and be more realistic, but anything more would be a waste of that flights mission.

     If you do happen to run when you vis other cons commin your way, your automatically a loser/running dweeb/or whatever name they might throw at ya.  

     What i would like to See is PEOPLE actually fight to SURVIVE, but not rack up 300 kills and 259 deaths!! This type of fighting is ultra firstperson Quake like and very UNrealistic as far as being a GOOD pilot.  

    I know that I cant change the way people do things, its up to them to play this simulation as realistcally or as fake as they intend.  

    Everyone should try and learn teamwork tactics, Rope a dope with your wingman is awesome, Good tumbles in an equal plane count is really a good stratgic fight. There should be more of these.  

 

[Dago]

Enough of this Jibba Jabba!  

Seriously, I am sorry to hear we upset someones delicate sensibilities.  Sure, there are some differant personalities here.  Some guys get hammered for things they say.  But alot dont.  Alot of the players are good guys, have mature discussions and share jokes.

One on one fights can be hard to find sometimes, or easy to find if you look. I seem to get into plenty, but of course I also am known to attack 6 cons by myself just to see if I can get any before they shred me.

Find the fun where you can, squelch any channel or player that bugs ya, and have fun.

Dago

[Vruth]

I agree that it sucks to be constantly teamed up upon, but acting as a loner in this game will generally get you killed if you're not an expert pilot.

If you go out alone in the wilderness, do you think only one animal will pick at your remains? Team up and be smart.  A lot of us fly with our squads in the MA so there will always be groups on nmy fighters.

Vruth
412th

[funked]

The gangbanging is a result of the in flight AWACS datalink HSI display.

[Midnight]

RWY...

I feel bad that Chris left. I only spoke with him a few times, but he seemed like a real nice guy.

I see all the bantering and pointless name calling in the MA myself. I don't like it any more than you do, but unfortunately, it's just the way the MA will always be.

Gone are the days of old where people where kind and flew with respect for others. Why? Because, the game is no longer only for mature adults with money to spend $2.00/hour or more (from much older days).

These days, parents buy there ill tempered dweeb kids computers so they can play video games and keep out of the parent's hair. That coupled with the American attitude of "it's the other guy's fault, not mine, I don't have to be responsible or respectful" will keep downgrading the community for everyone.

I wish there was something that could be done to teach respect, but I doubt it will ever happen.



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[Vulcan]

Prolly got get my head bit off for this... but I've seen a few of the DMD-xxx squads kicking around. They use all the same tactics everyone else does, gangbanging, HOs, n1ki's, whatever. They don't seem terribly experienced in AH, so its not a case of dweebery more a case of they need to get a feel for things.

I find plenty of good fights, I also engage in plenty of multi-con fights and come out ok.

Sorry but this post smells of rotten fish to me.

[AG Sachsenberg]

Well I can honestly say he is right.  I came from FA and was labeled a vulcher.  I do find some 1-1 fights but it turns quickly into a feeding frenzy.  This map has promise though we have been finding more 1-1 or 2-2 fights.  Depending on the plane I will even go 1-3.  But as it stands now something has to be done to get rid of the monotony, I have slashed my time online hoping that would help.  Maybe and a big maybe a axis vs allies room would help I dunno.  Sorry for him to leave, and yes this BBS has gotten out of hand as of late.  <S> if ever send me a private and we can arrange a place on the map for a 1-1 or 2-2 duel.      

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Verkaaft's mei Gwand `I foahr in himmel!
Sell my clothes I am going to Heaven!

[This message has been edited by AG Sachsenberg (edited 05-02-2001).]