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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2003, 07:17:10 PM »
Not using the swastika is not about people having mushy feeling and tearing up from being offended.  Those here who are suggesting that are being disingenous at best.

It is illegal to use the swatika in games in Germany.  Therefore, if the game is intended to be played in the German market it may not have swastikas.  Aces High is intended to be played in the German market, thus it doesn't have swastikas.

Its that simple and there is nothing to discuss.

If you are really ticked off about it, write letters to the German government about it.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2003, 07:33:12 PM »
The inability of some americans to understand or feel any empathy for others affirms my belief in the general lack of intelligence or wisdom of our current american culture.  

I think we need to start teaching civics in high school again.  Oh, and make em pass it this time.


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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2003, 08:44:15 PM »
Hehe you kill me erg!

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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2003, 09:08:37 PM »
Hmmmmm
Seems it's against the law in Germany. Since HTC has many German customers, that makes it NO. That also means the main question for this whole thread has been answered. So maybe we could drop this and find out what the new setup for CT is going to be??

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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2003, 09:22:03 PM »
Hey yeah! isnt it friday?  I thought that last one was a bit strange near the end.

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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2003, 01:11:08 AM »
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Hey odee where you at in northern virginia?  I just moved to Arlington again.

Say isnt there a law in virginia about cross burning?  Wasnt all that hoopla about 50 years ago?  Why dont they get over it?


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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2003, 03:36:18 AM »
I do not really see a difference, other than German law, between any of the WWII era German symbols. The Iron Cross does not invoke these same feelings in people. Initially I remember being quite suprised to see any German symbols in the game. I understand the legal position that Hitech may have taken but........... in for a penny..............

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2003, 09:30:24 AM »
There seems to be quite a few of us in the DC area.  CIU and aknimitz are here, there was somebody in the RTC year or so back that was in Fairfax county.

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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2003, 10:14:23 AM »
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I do not really see a difference, other than German law, between any of the WWII era German symbols. The Iron Cross does not invoke these same feelings in people. Initially I remember being quite suprised to see any German symbols in the game. I understand the legal position that Hitech may have taken but........... in for a penny..............


The Iron Cross that the Luftwaffe uses now, and the Balken Cruz, I think thats what it's called, like they used in WWII, are national symbols. The swastika was the emblem of the Nazi party, and was applied only to the tail of Luftwaffe aircraft. The regular crosses on the wings, and fuselage, had nothing to do with nazism. In fact the last year of WWI the German Air force switched from the Iron Cross, ( the one with the falired ends) to the Balken Cruz,( The one with the squared endss). Niether of these evoke the spirit of nazism. However everyone  gets a mental picture when they see the swastika.

Personally if theres people that are offended , thats good enough reason for me not to put it in the game. I'm no political correctness thug, and the emblem doesn't bother me one way or the other. However it does bring out strong emotions to some, and since we're here to have fun, I can certainly live without it in the game.
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2003, 03:57:27 PM »
I agree with Lowejg. The issue is very similar to the Confederate Flag. Some see it as a hate flag others see it as a representation of a country that fought for Independence.

My Great Great Grandfather was captured at Gettysburg. He was not fighting for slavery but for independence. He was a poor farm boy from south Alabama whom could not even read nor write.

Over time thugs like the KKK and other parties as well as rednecks adopted the flag as a hate flag against minority races.

However, the issue at hand is
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The swastika was the emblem of the Nazi party
, a party that begain and ended with hate unlike the Confederate States of America.

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« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2003, 04:30:23 PM »
Two of my all time favorites.  Sorry in advance, but i just cant help myself.....

two things from the 'confederate states' that I wish they would keep to themselves....  or is that three things?

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« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2003, 10:18:31 PM »
OOPs a double post
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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2003, 10:20:37 PM »
LOL Erg.

For a guy who's supposed to be Mr. Liberal, who wouldn't dream of offending people. You just nuked about half of your own country.

Yes I live in the south , but I'm no Johnny Reb. I also listen to Classic Rock, and Jazz. I'm not a C&W music fan. I got some friends that are though. Man would I love to introduce you to them...............:D

I guess it is alright to insult a group of people. As long as you supposedly inlightened types get to pick who they are huh?:rolleyes:

I'm not sure , but I think country music is big all over the United States. Not just those easy targets in the south.

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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2003, 01:53:07 AM »
Thats erg for you Lowe.  He really thinks there is no problem insulting people from the south because they are a lower form of life then he and his "kind". And if you get offended your just too sensitive because its all tounge and cheek.    Bow to the liberal:rolleyes:


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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2003, 03:28:18 AM »
LOL, good ones RTC
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