Author Topic: The Atomic bomb...why we used it.. (Read 10106 times)

AVRO1 · « **Reply #240 on:** October 22, 2004, 06:24:43 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
American is not a race. That point obviously escaped you.

No it did not, I simply applied the word in a larger sense then you.
Toward nations. Next time I'll use biggotry.

Besides, someone could easily claim that human are just one race.
We come from the same ancestors after all.
Which would invalidate the word completly.

Suave · « **Reply #241 on:** October 22, 2004, 08:14:20 AM »

I believe the word your looking for is nationalist, which is no better than racist.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #242 on:** October 22, 2004, 08:17:37 AM »

Martlet what you are saying is nonsense and idiocy at best and insanity at worst..

You obviously havent thought it through at all...

You know I have been following these comments over the past few days andI just didnt know how to express my shock...

Please tell us that this was only BS..

Martlet · « **Reply #243 on:** October 22, 2004, 08:49:23 AM »

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Originally posted by AVRO1
No it did not, I simply applied the word in a larger sense then you.
Toward nations. Next time I'll use biggotry.

Besides, someone could easily claim that human are just one race.
We come from the same ancestors after all.
Which would invalidate the word completly.

So you lied and overstated your case simply to make what you considered a bigger insult?

How cute. I should have noticed you were from Quebec before I even started discussing this with you. It would have explained a lot.

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Martlet what you are saying is nonsense and idiocy at best and insanity at worst..

You obviously havent thought it through at all...

You know I have been following these comments over the past few days andI just didnt know how to express my shock...

Please tell us that this was only BS..

Crying about idiocy, nonsense, and insanity without giving an indication as to what makes it nonsense is just talking to hear yourself talk.

Pony up.

deSelys · « **Reply #244 on:** October 22, 2004, 09:10:59 AM »

Not too good at debating, uh, Martlet?

In this you're like your beloved Pres...

Martlet · « **Reply #245 on:** October 22, 2004, 09:17:37 AM »

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Originally posted by deSelys
Not too good at debating, uh, Martlet?

In this you're like your beloved Pres...

Debating?

HAHAHAHAHAH!

All you've done is offer up insults.
I've explained my position, all you've been able to do is cry about it. You haven't offered up a single reason to show that it's wrong. If you want to debate, you have to SAY something.

You exist at our leisure.

deSelys · « **Reply #246 on:** October 22, 2004, 09:33:54 AM »

Go follow a reading class...

Yeager · « **Reply #247 on:** October 22, 2004, 10:42:18 AM »

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org
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Cry 'havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war.

Martlet · « **Reply #248 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:03:03 AM »

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Originally posted by deSelys
Go follow a reading class...

Excellent rebuttal. It's also right in line with my statement.

You have nothing to say besides insults.
You don't even have a platform, let alone insightful commentary to back it up.

You exist at our leisure.

AVRO1 · « **Reply #249 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:23:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
So you lied and overstated your case simply to make what you considered a bigger insult?

How cute. I should have noticed you were from Quebec before I even started discussing this with you. It would have explained a lot.

Nice of you to showcase your biggotry for all to see.

Bigger insult? Nope Nationalism was the term I was looking for.
They are both equally bad, because they are the same to me. Considering one group better then the other. You knew exactly what I meant and called semantics to avoid the issue.

If you want to continue playing semantics, then might I suggest you play with your dictionnary.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #250 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:26:05 AM »

Nationalism can be bad, but it is not inherintly evil.

Putting the people of you nation first is not a bad thing.

Taking it to extremes is.

Yeager · « **Reply #251 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:40:04 AM »

Whats the discussion about again? nuclear weapons? hiroshima? nationalism versus racism? bigotry (the one "g" variety)?

I would like to talk about using nuclear weapons to end the greatest human conflict in history and how that use has prevented the start of an even greater conflict to date.

I would also like to discuss the islamo-facist world view theory and what can/must be done to prevent them from obtaining and using a WTD (Weapon of Total Destruction) against the united states, the united kingdom, russia or a western european democracy and what should be done in the aftermath of such an attack.

Need to start thinking about these things and developing an environment of sound judgement that may be useful in preventing the premature end of civilization.

Martlet · « **Reply #252 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:42:34 AM »

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Originally posted by AVRO1
Nice of you to showcase your biggotry for all to see.

Bigger insult? Nope Nationalism was the term I was looking for.
They are both equally bad, because they are the same to me. Considering one group better then the other. You knew exactly what I meant and called semantics to avoid the issue.

If you want to continue playing semantics, then might I suggest you play with your dictionnary.

Considering one group better than the other?

We aren't talking about randomly nuking cities for fun. We are talking about self-preservation during a war.

You don't even have a point. You're just stomping your feet and calling names.

You exist at our leisure.

Toad · « **Reply #253 on:** October 22, 2004, 11:46:11 AM »

Interesting to note that all the famous generals, politicians and strategists that are quoted here as saying "Japan was ready to surrender anyway. We didn't need to drop the bomb, we just needed to ask them nicely." are all guys that would NOT have been in the invasion force hitting the beaches.

lazs2 · « **Reply #254 on:** October 22, 2004, 12:19:13 PM »

yep toad... not to mention that it was a promise made to the people that only the unconditional surrender of the japanesse people would do. oddly.... we didn't get that until a few days after the second atomic bomb and it came right from their big cheeze.... first time the guy had ever bothered to speak to the peasants.

then generals had a lot at stake... they needed to justify the war going on and them winnining it.... the old fasioned way.

lazs