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An editorial from England I was emailed
« on: February 22, 2003, 11:39:34 AM »
This was emailed to me:


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Interesting.  We are a nation with short lived memories...this certainly is a reminder and an interesting perspective.  

  No matter what your views on President Bush's statement of upcoming war, this, from an English journalist, is very interesting.  Just a word of background, for those of you who aren't familiar with the UK's Daily Mirror. This is a notoriously left-wing daily that is normally not supportive of the Colonials across the Atlantic.  

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  Tony Parsons Daily Mirror September 11, 2002  

  One year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting -- the mass murder of thousands, live on television.  As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's Mountain of Skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps.  An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: The victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil.  

  But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance.  Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country; too loud, too rich, too full of themselves, and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic.  And it seems incredible to me.  More than that, it turns my stomach.  America is
this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally.  We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood.  A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms,  as well as their own.  Have we forgotten so soon?  And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries, were butchered by a small group of religious
fanatics.  Are we so quick to betray them?

  What touched the heart about those who died in the Twin Towers and on the planes, was that we recognized them.  Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands, wives, and  children, some unborn. And these people brought it on themselves?  Their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter?  These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or
  Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan.  The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission. The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11.

  Remember, remember -  Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of weeping men phoning their wives to say, "I love you," before they were burned alive. Remember those people leaping to their deaths from the top of burning skyscrapers. Remember the hundreds of firemen buried alive.  Remember the smiling face of that beautiful little girl who was on one of the planes with her mum.  Remember, remember -  And realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have.  

  So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex . . .  So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after th they  merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes?  A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti.  AMERICA could have turned a large chunk of the world into a parking lot. That it didn't is a sign of strength.  American voices are already being raised against attacking Iraq - that's what a democracy is for.  How many in the Islamic world will have a minute's silence for the slaughtered innocents of 9/11? How many Islamic leaders will have the guts to say that the mass murder of 9/11 was an abomination?

  When the news of 9/11 broke on the West Bank, those freedom-loving Palestinians were dancing in the street.  America watched all of that - and didn't push the button.  We should thank the stars that America is the most powerful nation in the world.  I still find it incredible that 9/11 did not provoke all-out war.  Not a "war on terrorism."  A real war..  The fundamentalist dudes are talking about "opening the gates of hell," if America attacks Iraq.  Well, America could have opened the gates of hell like you wouldn't believe.  The US is the most militarily powerful nation that ever strode the face of the earth.  The campaign in Afghanistan may have been less than perfect and the planned war on Iraq may be misconceived.

  But don't blame America for not bringing peace and light to these wretched countries.  How many democracies are there in the Middle East, or in the Muslim world?  You can count them on the fingers of one hand  - assuming you haven't had any chopped off for minor shoplifting.  I love America, yet America is hated.  I guess that makes me Bush's poodle. But I would rather be a dog in New York City than a Prince in Riyadh.
  Above all, America is hated because it is what every country wants to be - rich, free, strong, open, optimistic.  Not ground down by the past, or religion, or some caste system.  America is the best friend this country ever had and we should start remembering that.

  Or do you really think the USA is the root of all evil?  Tell it to the loved ones of the men and women who leaped to their death from the burning towers.  Tell it to the nursing mothers whose husbands died on one of the hijacked planes, or were ripped apart in a collapsing skyscraper.  And tell it to the hundreds of young widows whose husbands worked for the New York Fire Department.  To our shame, George Bush gets a worse press than Saddam Hussein.  Once we were told that Saddam gassed the Kurds, tortured his own people and set up rape-camps in Kuwait.  Now we are told he likes Quality Street.  Save me the orange center, Oh Mighty One! Remember, remember, September 11 -  One of the greatest atrocities in human history was committed against America. No, do more than remember.  Never forget
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2003, 11:48:40 AM »
You know, I actually feel slightly ashamed that the British public even need to be told this......especially by the Mirror.


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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2003, 12:23:30 PM »
wonderful piece, you go guyfriend! :)

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2003, 01:27:36 PM »
I read the copy in question. Basically they get Tony Parsons (renta-mouth) to devils advocate the headline news op-ed.

This is a good development, although I wish they'd chosen someone like Boris Johnson or Bernard Ingham, or even Giles Brandreth rather than that tosspot Parsons. He's a music writer and so is prone to overblown purple prose thats both humourless and pious at the same time.

If you'd heard him slagging the US for its 'cultural imperialism' on the Late Show (before it got moved to newsnight), you wouldn't think he was the same person who wrote this doggerel. The guy is an utter sophist.

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2003, 06:52:40 PM »
Devils advocate?   Really?

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2003, 05:42:38 AM »
Well in the sense that his piece usually runs a completely opposite view to the headline op-ed

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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2003, 09:09:56 AM »
Even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2003, 12:39:42 PM »
thanks for the compliments to our once fine country


 it dont change the fact bush is an out of control fascist maniac. with justification that john wayne would have laughed at hes gonna ignore the american public (paraphrasing his own words) and persue a agressive war without a declaration of war. sorry chimpi is a deserter with criminal  intent and will get worst as time goes on.




scary some brits  even in journalistic circles dont know it yet.

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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2003, 01:45:06 PM »
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
thanks for the compliments to our once fine country

 it dont change the fact bush is an out of control fascist maniac. with justification that john wayne would have laughed at hes gonna ignore the american public (paraphrasing his own words) and persue a agressive war without a declaration of war. sorry chimpi is a deserter with criminal  intent and will get worst as time goes on.

scary some brits  even in journalistic circles dont know it yet.



Dolf, if I heard that you were going to the US AH con, I'd book tickets tomorrow.

You just surpassed Weazel as the best of the worst.

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2003, 06:09:51 PM »
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
thanks for the compliments to our once fine country


 it dont change the fact bush is an out of control fascist maniac. with justification that john wayne would have laughed at hes gonna ignore the american public (paraphrasing his own words) and persue a agressive war without a declaration of war. sorry chimpi is a deserter with criminal  intent and will get worst as time goes on.




scary some brits  even in journalistic circles dont know it yet.


Chirac is a cowardly worm who has to stay in power to keep his immunity from criminal charges that will be filed when he leaves office. That is if the French justice system has any credibility (which I doubt).

Everyone in Europe hates France now except Germany. When the war starts France will realize that no one cares anymore what they think.

Chirac is a friend of Saddam who sold him nuclear reactors knowing full well that they were to be used to develop nuclear weapons. The only thing more reprehensible than that is the fact that you voted him into office again.

Don't lecture us on Bush. Chirac is a corupt vain arrogant nobody leading a corrupt arrogant little country. He will never get invited to the US and if he did he would never be allowed to meet the President. He isn't important enough.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2003, 08:19:23 PM »
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He will never get invited to the US and if he did he would never be allowed to meet Bush. He isn't important enough.


I'd like to meet him.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2003, 01:52:49 AM »
After having a rest during the WE Habu is fresh enought to start a new week !

Anyway as I want to keep my health for more important matter I won't ever try to read him.


@Hangtime : I bet you will be drunk after him :D
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2003, 02:58:09 AM »
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Anyway as I want to keep my health for more important matter I won't ever try to read him.
 


So stop posting at all. I mean íf you have decided to not read the posts here...why open the threads at all? Why reply at all? Just take a break or something straffo.

Oh and let me guess, your reply to this will be either

a) a post in French
b) me on your ignore list, or
c) the entire thread on your ignore list.

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2003, 05:17:32 AM »
After having a rest during the WE Hortlund is fresh enought to start a new week !

Anyway as I want to keep my health for more important matter I won't ever try to read him.


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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2003, 06:08:48 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo



alternative d)



Aternative d?

Oh yeah thats where he mocks us like a child    :D

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