Originally posted by Hortlund
Saddams B&C capability comes from Germany not the US.
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So why the x-US-ambassador in the Iraq during Iran/Iraq-war confirmed in the interview that the USA sent most of the chemical weapons. He didnt said anything about Germany (although its also clear that nearly every nation in the world was selling weapons to both war parties).
The point is that (also) the USA delivered Saddam chemical weapons.
Originally posted by Hortlund
If you buy a gun and then shoot a random pedestrian, the one responsible for the murder is you, not the gun shop owner.
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LOL. So whats your point ? That the USA delivered Saddam the gas weapons but never expected that he would use them because of the Geneva treaty ?
Ridiculous.
Originally posted by Hortlund
Yeah, nobody likes Iran either...what's your point?
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The point is that there exists a treaty signed by every civilized nation which strictly forbids the use of chemical weapons.
And after Saddam used chemical weapons it was the USA which prevented any sanctions against Iraq because of that war-crime by putting in their Veto.
Thats the point - not that anyone likes or dislikes Iran.
The point is that if a war criminal is defined as a useful ally it will be protected even by US-Un-vetos and it doesnt matter what crimes the criminals have done.
If the USA had accepted or ignored that Saddam butchered a civilian kurdish city and killed thousands Kurds with gas weapons
by putting their Veto in the UN-council it is really ridiculous if they today blame this act as a barbarian crime which has to be sanctioned with a war.
Originally posted by Hortlund
Why do you think they dont fear Saddam? Could it be the fact that the US has over 100 000 troops in the region?
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No.
The simple fact is that every of these nations have a much stronger military than the battered Iraq. Also they have political interest that Iraq will not break apart in a civil war.
The US-troops are not bringing stability in the region but could destroy this stability for decades.
Originally posted by Hortlund
You think there will be trouble in the region after the US has defeated Iraq? I doubt it considering the fact that there will be over 100 000 US troops at the scene. That should cool down even the most passionate terrorist.
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LOL - try to analyse the situation in Iraq and their mix of peoples. They couldnt get under control by hundredthousands of soldiers and you really belive that some US-nboys could handle the situation in Iraq?
They even were not able to bring peace in Afghanistan - which was nearly dead.
Originally posted by Hortlund
If you honestly are saying that Afghanistan is in a worse position today than two years ago, you are either a taliban or an idiot.
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Just have a look at Afghanistan.
Is there Peace ? No
Is there even hope for peace ? No
Could the puppet called Karsai move outside Kabul without foreign escorts ? No
They would kill him 5 kilometers outside like they did with the soviet puppet Najibullah.
Have the women got more rights ? No
Like in Taliban time they have to live the same life they did before.
Have the clanwars ended? No
In the southeast you have the pashtuni warlords - supported by Pakistan, who have established the same system like the Talibans did. They dont call themself Taliban but its only the name which has changes.
In the west the whole Herat province has been occupied by a iranian puppet, in the northeast the warcriminal "General" Dostum, supported by the CIA has his terrorregime - killing and suppressing non-usbekian races.
And in the rest of the country you have less powerful warlords who are fighting each other day by day.
In Kabul the Karsai regime has lost 4 of its ministers by assassinations.
There are some propaganda projects showing us in TV how good the development in Afghanistan is now.
But the soviets had the same propaganda shows during their occupation of Afghanistan.
In reality nothing has effectivly changed. They are still fighting a bloody civil war and destroying every hope of a future for many following afghan generations. The women still have no rights.
Not quite a victory for democracy.
But at least the AlQuaida lost some bases...
And now try imagine how the situation could develop in a country with three racial and religious different groups which hate each other so deeply like in Iraq.
Combine this with the fact that these factions are also devided and fighting each others.
And put in the fact taht foreign nations like the Turks or the Iranians or the Syrians have also their relations and interests with these iraqui groups.
You will need much more than 100000 US troops to get this chaos under control. Because they dont fight an open war. They are experts in guerilla wars - they had to fight that way for decades.
Get inside this chaos and many inncocent US troops will have to pay the price for the stupid policy of their president.
